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windiewasher

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2011, 08:32:49 pm »
Is the current offer for 7 days?

today and tommorow in Hull then Lincolnshire on Monday!
If was meant to of been on Lincolnshire but some spark in London said put it on Hull first!
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

mike roberts

Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2011, 08:34:35 pm »
hi mike,

Been trading as Ltd for 3 years
expanding very quickly.

just round the corner when your in the area fancy a coffee

Danny
Fair play.. Yer likewise seriously pop in... might be able to push some work your way

That offer is quite clever not including soffit fascias .. makes you wonder ..
just dont like the idea of groupon making so much ..... .. mayb another way




Catherine10

Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2011, 08:36:31 pm »
 Hey Im not knocking you. I think anything is worth a go.

mike roberts

Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2011, 08:37:10 pm »
Is the current offer for 7 days?

today and tommorow in Hull then Lincolnshire on Monday!
If was meant to of been on Lincolnshire but some spark in London said put it on Hull first!

kev wish you all the best with it  ..... finer details what happens if say weather goes pear shaped assume there is a disclaimer or extension  ?

windiewasher

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2011, 08:40:18 pm »
Is the current offer for 7 days?

today and tommorow in Hull then Lincolnshire on Monday!
If was meant to of been on Lincolnshire but some spark in London said put it on Hull first!

kev wish you all the best with it  ..... finer details what happens if say weather goes pear shaped assume there is a disclaimer or extension  ?

Sorry mate what to do you mean pal?
Its just a trial to see how it goes.I've spoke to another window cleaner who has converted 60% of 281 customers  into regulars from Groupon.
He also estimates another 15% will become regulars.
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Nameless Drudge

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2011, 09:47:55 pm »
Three things,
                      1. I think that information about 60%  becoming regulars is spurious rubbish,it needs qualifying,how often and at what price.
                      2.  I clean some houses for £7 and am thus deemed a fool by you.
                      3. You can buy books of tickets to get a small discount at the toll booth crossing the Humber Bridge.           
 

Nameless Drudge

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2011, 09:51:30 pm »
 And a prediction.

   You`ll have taken a paid job by the end of next year if not this one.

stuart mc

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2011, 10:58:48 pm »
And a prediction.

   You`ll have taken a paid job by the end of next year if not this one.

yes Sean ;D but are you jealous

to catherine yes try it and see, but there is a reason why people don't think it will work, because it doesn't

kev good luck though, good on you for trying, I hope you prove me wrong but I doubt it, I would rather clean 5 or 6 houses an hour at £5 to what you are doing

windiewasher

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2011, 11:06:22 pm »
Three things,
                      1. I think that information about 60%  becoming regulars is spurious rubbish,it needs qualifying,how often and at what price.
                      2.  I clean some houses for £7 and am thus deemed a fool by you.
                      3. You can buy books of tickets to get a small discount at the toll booth crossing the Humber Bridge.           
 

I have 2 books of toll passes but i have no intention of going to Hull as i only work within 10 miles of my home!
Takings off all first cleans till march 7th 2014
October  total=  cleaned  extra per month
November = cleaned extra per month
Total £  so far.

Paul Coleman

Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2011, 06:54:43 am »
If a decent percentage are converted into regulars at normal rates, it might just work.  I won't be trying it myself though as I currently have no need or wish to expand my business beyond picking up the odd customer in passing.  If that changes it's more likely that I would door knock than go for Groupon but I won't say never.
As an aside to this, I know a local window cleaner who has been getting phone calls from customers who bought this service.  He knows nothing about it though.  He is in the unfortunate position of having a similar name to a window cleaning company based about 25 miles away who are involved with Groupon.  He even got a bit of verbal from one guy who thought that he was trying to con him.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2011, 01:22:26 pm »
Oh, OK, he's locked his other thread, so given Kev's attitude to anyone diagreeing with him, I need to stress that this is not a personal attack, it's just based on the maths of advertising on Groupon.  By all means attack the maths; I may well have made an obvious mistake.

As I said elsewhere ( http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=137871.msg1156246#msg1156246 ), the maths simply doesn't add up. There are much cheaper ways of getting better business.

It's all well and good saying anything is worth a go but that simply isn't true (to test: is it worth running  a peak hour three minute national TV advert for your local window cleaning service? No).  So, the aim is to get the most for your money.  Getting a bundle of price-sensitive customers by spending four times as much as leafletting to get non-price-sensitive ones is not worth a go.

I may be wrong and you may well end up feeling it's been worthwhile; I just get a kick out of getting the most for my money and time.  I feel that Groupon is the wrong way to go about it based upon the numbers.

Kev, if you do reply, remember, this isn't about open or closed minds or about you personally, it's about maths.  If my calculations are wrong, I'm all ears.  If you can show that Groupon is a better way to get customers, I'd like to know, as I'll go that way myself.

Vin

Tom White

Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2011, 01:33:44 pm »
I think this link says it all:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15574954

rosskesava

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2011, 03:46:49 pm »

Sorry mate what to do you mean pal?
Its just a trial to see how it goes.I've spoke to another window cleaner who has converted 60% of 281 customers  into regulars from Groupon.
He also estimates another 15% will become regulars.

281 window cleans and 160 new customers?

To be honest, I do not believe it.





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wfp master

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2011, 04:37:14 pm »
not for me iam out. ::)

wfp master

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2011, 04:39:40 pm »
deffo sounds like desperate measures.

gary999

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2011, 04:57:21 pm »
personally i dont think it will work out

but i really hope it does and hopefully it will shut up
some of the people on here who cant wait to see others
fail and love nothing better than getting a dig in.

dont get me wrong some on here have put together some
valid arguments against,but some just cant wait to have a go
(must be desperate,mug etc)

you know what we are more or likely right it wont work but
you just never know it just  might.so why dont the ones amongst
you with the heads with the density of lead lay off and wait and see
what happens.

if or when it does go wrong the dead heads can really go
to town and really put the boot in!

best wishes gary :)

Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2011, 05:58:34 pm »
personally i dont think it will work out

but i really hope it does and hopefully it will shut up
some of the people on here who cant wait to see others
fail and love nothing better than getting a dig in.

dont get me wrong some on here have put together some
valid arguments against,but some just cant wait to have a go
(must be desperate,mug etc)

you know what we are more or likely right it wont work but
you just never know it just  might.so why dont the ones amongst
you with the heads with the density of lead lay off and wait and see
what happens.

if or when it does go wrong the dead heads can really go
to town and really put the boot in!

best wishes gary :)

That reminds me i must look at my roses and fuscias this weekend.... ;D

Mike_G

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2011, 06:27:41 pm »
theres fools on here that clean windows on houses for £5 £6 and £7 now that makes me laugh!
then they have the cheek to criticise!
the ones that charge £200 to clean gutters out havent the money to buy poles backpacks and trolleys,really makes me laugh tbh!
 Theres one on here biggest business man ever  ;D couldn't stump £400 for a guttervac!

I hope you do not mean everyone who cleans houses for £5, £6 or £7 are fools? I guess not. I do quite a few for about that price and I'm no fool! There's more than likely plenty of fools doing houses for £50 as well!

I agree with your comment about the guttervac, I dont know who you are on about, but it never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who claim to earn £200 plus a day and the cannot afford to buy the most basic equipment unless its secondhand rubbish. I reckon we have a few story tellers on this site, perhaps it makes them feel important.

As for groupon and your prices, good luck, personally I hate doing gutters, I always get soaked and I reckon I might of waited til spring if I was tempted to advertise, much nicer conditions to work in (imo). They phoned me the other day and asked if I wanted to go on there but I didn't fancy it, too busy already. You will have to keep us informed on how well it works, and no porkies!

Pope vader

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2011, 06:39:29 pm »
CIU is full of story tellers,  give it a few weeks and people will be on here moaning that they are skint after 2 days of snow

5, 6, 7, houses are the norm around here as a lot of houses are lucky if they got more than 6 windows and 2 doors

if i was to start from scratch i would look at a groupon offering window cleaning at say £7,as it is good way to start, as might get a few 100 custys,  lots of practise and retain a few

mister bit

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Re: Offer of the day-or not?
« Reply #59 on: November 04, 2011, 06:43:18 pm »
I was wondering who did the write up on the ad? Was it Gropeon?

... "purified water containing minerals a plenty"....  :o

Are you cleaning with Evian or summat?