[D Ingram]

Sorry Simon am I missing the point here ?? : :

I thought this was a forum for professional carpet cleaners who all have different methods of cleaning at their disposal. Or am I still in the dark ages with the wet brigade.
 

[Helen]

I had to clean a low profile carpet in a coffee shop it was covered in spillages and had never been cleaned before i decided to spray some M Power and bonnet clean it to see what the results were and if needed HWE it.
After using my rotary it looked ok not all the spots and stains had come out but i was not convinced that extraction would not  improve it, well the water that came out after extraction was the filthiest i have ever seen, it was like ink and the carpet looked much better, am i doing something wrong as i know that some on here swear by this method i have yet to achieve a result i was happy with unless it is very lite soiling, i am doing another job soon where i got my first call back it was a low profile that i HWE and a coffee stain wicked back i want to bonnet clean it this time but want it to look clean as well.
 

James
We've never had great results with M power.
Some people do, but we prefer other solutions.

Did you pre vac?

We prespray with say pureclean, depending on depth of dirt, agitate and then dwell for a minimum of 10 minutes. Then hot pad the area. Dependant on condition we may pad twice.
Never had wick back and never had a call back commercial or domestic.

Keep trying with it, change your pre spray, it'll come right for you one day

[peter maybury]

Dave
I have done maintenance cleans on a lot of carpets that we have initially done deep cleans on. In my experience the majority of customers in the commercial sector come to somebody new because they are unhappy with the results that they have had in the past. If they were happy with the service they would not be contacting me.
I get quite a few jobs a year from customers who are contacting us for quotes for replacement flooring, I am going into offices where they have contract products that should have a lifespan of 10 - 15 years but are totally trashed from bad cleaning practices after on a few years. Most of the time their contract cleaning company will hire machines and make a complete balls up of the carpet.
These become the most valuable customers because you not only save them a lot of money and disruption, it gives you the opportunity to demonstrate that not all carpet cleaners are of the same ability..

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com
 

[Simon Gerrard]

Sorry Simon am I missing the point here ?? : :

I thought this was a forum for professional carpet cleaners who all have different methods of cleaning at their disposal. Or am I still in the dark ages with the wet brigade.
 

You been on the bottle, Dave?

[D Ingram]

Peter the same can be said in many trades its the man on the end of the tool not the tool on the end of the man

You know when the job has gone pete tong the clue is in when the cheque fail to arrive but by then you know its not quite right,.

I can quote many stories of clients who have used cleaner with state of the art equipement only to find their furniture has gone 2 shades lighter with colour loss through using high ph's. the lists go on and on.

[D Ingram]

Me on the bottle Simon not a drop has passed my lips in over 12 months.

I think it may be the o2 dongle I'm on

[james roffey]

Helen, yes i did pre vac.

What is the equivalent of Powerburst in bonnet cleaning. we use M Power on carpets as its safe etc but when we come across a trashed carpet we get out the big guns. well the low profile commercial are usually synthetics what can we bonnet clean them with that have the same effect as powerburst.

[Jim_77]

You can bonnet clean with powerburst.  You just have to rinse it out afterwards

I wouldn't reach for M-Power as my main bonneting solution, maybe if there was an odour or contamination issue I would.  Have you tried HD microsplitter?  With some oxidiser added that would be your "powerburst" for bonneting.  Give the fusion clean another go too, on a few different carpets.

[Aquakleen Restoration Services]

I use Surround Free Super concentrate (diluted 60:1). Took 2 days to clean a school's carpets and used about 2 litres of solution only. Here is a video of me doing it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx1xxZF7Z4A

The results were terrific. I did the school back in December last year so they must have been happy with the results the first time around.

This system prevents wickback with HWE. I did a nursery room where the carpet was absolutely disgusting but it came up like a new pin! The staff room wasn't much better with dozens of coffee stains but again came up sensational!

James what kind of pads were you using? You need the heavy duty ones with aggitation strips to do really bad carpets...

[Simon Gerrard]

Can't argue with that. What kind of rates are you charging for it?
I like Encap better than other LM methods.

Simon

[Aquakleen Restoration Services]

The school job took 2 days but they were looooooooooonnnnnggggggg days! Saying that the most physical part was the vacuuming. I find bonneting a piece of cake....far easier than hwe. The rotary does all the work for you. I just stuck my ipod on and listened to a couple of audio books! Charged £1000 for the 2 days work. Some may have charged more but I was happy with that especially these days!

[james roffey]

I just use the regular pads when i got the machine it came with about 30 of them so i have not brought any others especially as they are £30
 have not done much LM i may try the encapsulation method you suggested next time thank for that.

[Steve Rothwell]

Simon if you are down Southampton in the next few weeks or so, I can show you the Hector way of LM cleaning with Mpower or HD if you like.

Showed the Bunny boiler (gary j) and he was gob smacked at the speed and the high standard of the clean, and I am sure you would be too.

Once in a lifetime offer 

[Simon Gerrard]

The school job took 2 days but they were looooooooooonnnnnggggggg days! Saying that the most physical part was the vacuuming. I find bonneting a piece of cake....far easier than hwe. The rotary does all the work for you. I just stuck my ipod on and listened to a couple of audio books! Charged £1000 for the 2 days work. Some may have charged more but I was happy with that especially these days!

How many square yards / metres was that?

Simon

[Doug Holloway]

Jim

Do you have the heater tank which went with the machine?

Cheers

doug

[Aquakleen Restoration Services]

The school job took 2 days but they were looooooooooonnnnnggggggg days! Saying that the most physical part was the vacuuming. I find bonneting a piece of cake....far easier than hwe. The rotary does all the work for you. I just stuck my ipod on and listened to a couple of audio books! Charged £1000 for the 2 days work. Some may have charged more but I was happy with that especially these days!

How many square yards / metres was that?

Simon

Ive no idea mate. I just had a look, figured out how long it would take then that times my hourly rate. Actually I knocked a bit off as I seem to have the contract to clean it twice a year now. Dont wanna be greedy but I think it was a fair price and Im happy with that

[clarkson]

With bonneting you are only going to remove a limited amount of soil basically what come into contact with the bonnet.
I do bonnet on commercial jobs but only after extraction. I have tried for years to achieve results that I am happy with just by bonneting but the closest has been with texatherm, but still cannot get the same result as hwe then bonnet.

Peter
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com

hi
i agree with the above, i think texatherm is the best rotary system but will not cope on really dirty or greasy carpets like a retail food outlet e.g. coffee shop. rotary is  good when you have hundreds of square meters of office carpet with mild traffic film on the walkways and the odd spot to deal with.

cheers

john

[Aquakleen Restoration Services]

I just use the regular pads when i got the machine it came with about 30 of them so i have not brought any others especially as they are £30
 have not done much LM i may try the encapsulation method you suggested next time thank for that.

Yeah they are pricey but last a long time. I would Ebay some of the pads you have if you have a lot and buy some of the heavy duty ones in turn. You only need a few. Just use the ringer bucket... You should notice an enormous difference especially on heavily soiled carpets when using the heavy duty pads.

[Simon Gerrard]

This is a job we did this evening. It's low profile sheet in a furniture show room that has just undetgone an overhaul. The carpet was extremely dust with plaster etc and so LM just wasn't an option. We pre-vacced it with a Flexi 5 then pre-sprayed it with Pure Clean and cleaned it in just shy of 100 sqm in an hour with a TM.

Simon

[james roffey]

Jim

Do you have the heater tank which went with the machine?

Cheers

doug

I just got a rotary Doug with a few dozen pads, not a Texatherm.