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Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #100 on: June 26, 2011, 03:23:28 pm »
Paul

I'm not talking about courses, although I agree their training should be more regional.

Paul Evans

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #101 on: June 26, 2011, 03:43:42 pm »
There are 15 regional tv chanels on air as we speak

http://www.thinkbox.tv/server/show/nav.916

How could we get recognition in all areas without millions of pounds.

I like the idea but we all need a realism check has for national coverage.

So i stand by my point each area contributes to national recognition whilst promoting regionally.

Thers is no quick fix or recognition over night.

These lads at the NCCA are no fools i am sure they have looked at all handles

Paul

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #102 on: June 26, 2011, 03:49:32 pm »
There you all go again, thinking from inside the box at what are a very limited range of choices, most of which have been tried in the past.
The main problem is the erroneous belief that a bunch of carpet cleaners on a forum can start a new national association, when none of us know how to start, let alone run one.
The second problem is that everyone has got their own ideas on how to do it, and so, if it's not done how they would like it to be they, aren't interested.
What everyone is interested in is phone calls, jobs and sales but because of the diversity of ideas no agreement can be reached and therefore no progress is made.
The other problem is the massive difference in training (or the lack of it) experience and skill levels of the membership, all of which make it very difficult to market such a diverse group of people to the wider public with the promise of a uniform end product, irrespective of geographical location.
Solving these problems is not in itself difficult if the right criteria are put in place at the outset.


Steve, I agree wholeheartedly with much of what you say. ;)

Simon

Paul Evans

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #103 on: June 26, 2011, 03:59:22 pm »
Simon

When did TMACCA become recognised.

If you have the answers please use them in  TMACCA.

Or is there another box your thinking out of.

If anybody thinks there going to have a recognised brand in the uk overnight without spending millions,

Im in you can have my grand.

THis must be a wind up silly me

Paul ;D

Good OP Derek

creighton foyle

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #104 on: June 26, 2011, 04:11:59 pm »
derek the ncca already has about 600 members and an infrastructure of sorts already in place, why not join the ncca have a word with the directors and  organise a poll of existing members to see how many of them would be willing to make a one off payment to implement your ideas, i for one would onsider it as a viable project, maybe you could sound them out at the carnival.

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #105 on: June 26, 2011, 04:15:02 pm »
Surely the NCCA should be thinking about these issues, it is afterall their job, isn't it?

Simon

Paul Evans

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #106 on: June 26, 2011, 04:24:04 pm »
Creighton i agree with you.

But this is a issue for members to stand up and be counted.
Maybe at the next AGM, But how many will turn up?

This maybe the way to go a mass attendance.

By the way do members get a statement of accounts annually, Where there money is going.
The NCCA is a ltd company so this should all be available.

Paul

Doug Holloway

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #107 on: June 26, 2011, 04:29:23 pm »
Hi Guys

Individually we can promote carpet cleaning through our own businesses and that is certainly where I would put my £1000.

If my advertising and quality is high then that reflects well on the industry also.

Cheers

Doug

derek west

Re: Organisation
« Reply #108 on: June 26, 2011, 04:30:34 pm »
derek the ncca already has about 600 members and an infrastructure of sorts already in place, why not join the ncca have a word with the directors and  organise a poll of existing members to see how many of them would be willing to make a one off payment to implement your ideas, i for one would onsider it as a viable project, maybe you could sound them out at the carnival.

but would they listen to a newbie like me, i doubt it.

anyway tacca is growing from strength to strength now. ;D ;D
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=168506547806

32 members woooohoooooooo ;D

Paul Evans

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #109 on: June 26, 2011, 04:35:26 pm »
Surely the NCCA should be thinking about these issues, it is afterall their job, isn't it?

Simon

TMACCA,  Come on Simon

Which box,  You have the answers

Paul

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #110 on: June 26, 2011, 04:35:59 pm »
Of course they wouldn't listen to you, Derek, they've got their own way of doing things and I very much they'll change it any time soon.

Simon

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #111 on: June 26, 2011, 04:41:10 pm »
Paul,
TMACCA???

If you mean the TMCCA from the Truckmounters forum, we did nothing with that simply because first and foremost it is a group of carpet cleaners on a forum and as has been proven in the past  not to be the basis from which to start a new national association.

Simon

Paul Evans

  • Posts: 408
Re: Organisation
« Reply #112 on: June 26, 2011, 05:20:23 pm »
Paul,
TMACCA???

If you mean the TMCCA from the Truckmounters forum, we did nothing with that simply because first and foremost it is a group of carpet cleaners on a forum and as has been proven in the past  not to be the basis from which to start a new national association.

Simon

Simon you still advertise this on your website.

Misleading to say the least.

But

Good luck  Paul

Simon Gerrard

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #113 on: June 26, 2011, 05:24:27 pm »
Paul,
Not misleading at all. All truckmouters numbers are members of the tmcca. But as I said we've left it at that for reasons already stated.

Paul Evans

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #114 on: June 26, 2011, 05:31:05 pm »
Paul,
Not misleading at all. All truckmouters numbers are members of the tmcca. But as I said we've left it at that for reasons already stated.

Please explain what standards are set?
How do you qualify to be a member?
Are there any codes of practise ?

If i get a T/M can i join? just by joining the forum.

I am still waiting for the magical outside the box answer please enlighten me.

Paul

Simon Gerrard

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Paul Evans

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #116 on: June 26, 2011, 05:43:16 pm »
As if I'd spill the details on forum.
 ;D

Nice one Simon!!!!

I allways thought Gerrards was a massive ice cream firm,
You must of heard of them?

Marketing hey, its our job.

Carpet cleaning is a pleasurable result from this.

Paul

Colin Day

Re: Organisation
« Reply #117 on: June 26, 2011, 06:00:54 pm »
Oh, lets have PUCCA (Porty Users Carpet Cleaning Association) ;D

How pathetic!

derek west

Re: Organisation
« Reply #118 on: June 26, 2011, 06:17:28 pm »
Oh, lets have PUCCA (Porty Users Carpet Cleaning Association) ;D

How pathetic!

you could get jamie oliver to promote it, pucca. ;D

Paul Evans

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Re: Organisation
« Reply #119 on: June 26, 2011, 06:25:45 pm »
As if I'd spill the details on forum.
 ;D

Ive heard it all now

Bu** S**t

Simon i see you as very succesful.

Dont let yourself down.

Fink im going to make a organisation up.

PCCA

Easy an im ped

Paul