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GB Window Cleaning

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phase 2
« on: June 10, 2011, 05:41:28 pm »
ok ive decided i cant let this beat me! all these top floor windows ive spotted up to hight heaven!
ive been talking to my dad and he's willing to lend me alot of cash! im lucky i know!

so i need your advice people, i want to go from trolley to van mount asap!!!
what should i get?

ive got a 03 plate vauxhall combo! what should i get?
i'd really apprieciate all your input!

oh yeah ive also got the use of my dads garage if i need it for making pure water or whatever. or can i get everything i need in my van?

regards, GB

Re: phase 2
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 05:43:32 pm »
You will notice a difference when you use more water. Get the biggest tank you can carry.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 05:49:30 pm »
thanks sunshine, i will do mate!

also i live near a wfp suppliers called "anchor cleaning supplies" they do van mounts and everything
should i get them to do it all for me? enyone any experience with them?

except for the poles, gonna go for gardiners poles!

also im still on the lookout for anyone willing to train me for a day or 2! anyone willing to take me out? im on lincoln!

thanks

Frankybadboy

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 06:36:32 pm »
You will notice a difference when you use more water. Get the biggest tank you can carry.
what a load of rubbish :o

Lee GLS

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 06:41:44 pm »
are you near grimsby, where you have purefreedom, or wolverhampton where you have the cleaning warehouse? they both do very similar systems, but the cleaning warehosue is cheaper and a very good service.

♠Winp®oClean♠

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2011, 06:59:11 pm »
ok ive decided i cant let this beat me! all these top floor windows ive spotted up to hight heaven!
ive been talking to my dad and he's willing to lend me alot of cash! im lucky i know!

so i need your advice people, i want to go from trolley to van mount asap!!!
what should i get?

ive got a 03 plate vauxhall combo! what should i get?
i'd really apprieciate all your input!

oh yeah ive also got the use of my dads garage if i need it for making pure water or whatever. or can i get everything i need in my van?

regards, GB

for the van-

tank
pump with controller
reel with hose

Approx £400

As for RO's, I don't use one so someone else could advise better. ;)

davids3511

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2011, 07:08:12 pm »
You will notice a difference when you use more water. Get the biggest tank you can carry.
what a load of rubbish :o
It's not. It's good advise.

Steve Sed

Re: phase 2
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2011, 07:08:30 pm »
Just to inject some reality.... I get perfect results mostly with a 25 litre trolley. It's either method or purity of water. Spending zillions won't fix that.

martinw

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2011, 07:10:08 pm »
GB wouldnt you be better off getting the things right instead of spending cash. you will get more water  but it will not help you if  you are doing it wrong way or to quick. take your time.

Slash

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2011, 07:16:27 pm »
I believe Pure Freedom in Grimsby take you out for the day when your getting a van mount fitted,I have one of their systems and can't fault them,however I did'nt need the training so went round Cleethorpes for the day,should have gone for the training session instead! ;D ;D

DeLuce

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2011, 07:42:43 pm »
Check the payload capacity of your van GB, that will dictate the size of tank and equipment you can carry. 1ltr of water weighs 1kg, so a 250ltr tank will, when full, weigh 250kg and then add on hose reel etc, oh, and yourself  :P.
  when you settle on tank size, get measurements from inside your van, where do you want to position it? Across or down side of van ( personally I'd have it across bulkhead for weight distribution and balance) ? Flat tank, or do you prefer upright?  so many choices and decisions  ;D

Re: phase 2
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2011, 08:28:40 pm »
You will notice a difference when you use more water. Get the biggest tank you can carry.
what a load of rubbish :o

You can get away with less water on later cleans but on the first clean you have to thouroughly clean all frames and glass. I advise using a higher flow rate AND scrubbing frames first THEN glass. If you get it right on the first clean you should have no problems.

I have personally help set up over a dozen window cleaners with WFP and following my advice NONE have had a problem with their customers. One lad had never even cleaned windows but now 18 months in has masses of well paid loyal customers and no issues with spotting.

The guy is trying to do it with minimal water, not a good idea initially.

GB: My number is on my website if you need advice.

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2011, 08:34:30 pm »
are you near grimsby, where you have purefreedom, or wolverhampton where you have the cleaning warehouse? they both do very similar systems, but the cleaning warehosue is cheaper and a very good service.

im only an hour away from grimsby lee! but about 2.5 hrs away window cleaning warehouse!
have you heard of anchor cleaning supplies in lincoln?
thanks mate

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2011, 08:55:25 pm »
I believe Pure Freedom in Grimsby take you out for the day when your getting a van mount fitted,I have one of their systems and can't fault them,however I did'nt need the training so went round Cleethorpes for the day,should have gone for the training session instead! ;D ;D

yeah ive just looked at there web site and they train you for the day when fitting your van! sounds tempting!

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2011, 08:58:46 pm »
Check the payload capacity of your van GB, that will dictate the size of tank and equipment you can carry. 1ltr of water weighs 1kg, so a 250ltr tank will, when full, weigh 250kg and then add on hose reel etc, oh, and yourself  :P.
  when you settle on tank size, get measurements from inside your van, where do you want to position it? Across or down side of van ( personally I'd have it across bulkhead for weight distribution and balance) ? Flat tank, or do you prefer upright?  so many choices and decisions  ;D

thanks nic, think id like a tank across the bulhead too, i'll get the biggest tank i can proberbly big square one or somthing!

GB Window Cleaning

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2011, 09:01:48 pm »

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You can get away with less water on later cleans but on the first clean you have to thouroughly clean all frames and glass. I advise using a higher flow rate AND scrubbing frames first THEN glass. If you get it right on the first clean you should have no problems.

I have personally help set up over a dozen window cleaners with WFP and following my advice NONE have had a problem with their customers. One lad had never even cleaned windows but now 18 months in has masses of well paid loyal customers and no issues with spotting.

The guy is trying to do it with minimal water, not a good idea initially.

GB: My number is on my website if you need advice.
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thanks loads for that sunshine! i really appreciate your help, if i need to chat i'll defo give you a call! thanks again.

Re: phase 2
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2011, 09:10:36 pm »


You can get away with less water on later cleans but on the first clean you have to thouroughly clean all frames and glass. I advise using a higher flow rate AND scrubbing frames first THEN glass. If you get it right on the first clean you should have no problems.

I have personally help set up over a dozen window cleaners with WFP and following my advice NONE have had a problem with their customers. One lad had never even cleaned windows but now 18 months in has masses of well paid loyal customers and no issues with spotting.

The guy is trying to do it with minimal water, not a good idea initially.

GB: My number is on my website if you need advice.
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thanks loads for that sunshine! i really appreciate your help, if i need to chat i'll defo give you a call! thanks again.
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Any time mate.

Wc Solutions

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2011, 09:16:01 pm »
please remember some advice on here is not always the best mate.

with you spending some cash on a load of stuff it has to be right.

dont wanna end up like dazmond - buying the wrong bits all the time.

you def do not need the biggest tank possible!!! you need the best size tank for your business and days work!

need space in the van for any other bits n bobs you may need to carry around for the day.

not sure why the windows are spotting - guess your cleaning method isnt 100% yet mate.

diy fitting can be good mate - just because the system isnt £1000 + and top of the range it doesnt mean you wont get the same result - CLEAN WINDOWS!

diy fitting can also help you understand how everything works - so when a problem on the job - you can sort it quick and wont effect the days work so much.

a pro fitting is great as they have all the right kit for a good job but you wont learn much about the workings and when you get a problem - which you will! - how do you fix it quick?

so what im saying is you dont have to spend  too much to get you where you need to be mate! the money you save doing that def put towards a good every day pole and brush head - slx or maybe the elite pole depending on your budget. the new gardiners sill brush does look good!!

think about it - dont rush in! need space for other stuff? van payload? etc

Wc Solutions

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Re: phase 2
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2011, 09:21:12 pm »
ref spotting: just try this at home or friends.

do they spot there to?

is so try this first mate (bit long winded but it helps)

just plug your pole into the outside tap and go round the whole house just doing frames and make sure you give the tops bits of each from a good going over.

then go back round with your pure water and check results.

reason i say do this - is to simply rule out the fact you are not cleaning the top frames as well - so every time you visit a job you are just moving a little bit of dirt off the top frame each time and drying spotty.

even if a job spots once, normally the next clean would have sorted this.

you 100% your tds meter is working right?

Re: phase 2
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2011, 09:26:08 pm »
please remember some advice on here is not always the best mate.

with you spending some cash on a load of stuff it has to be right.

dont wanna end up like dazmond - buying the wrong bits all the time.

you def do not need the biggest tank possible!!! you need the best size tank for your business and days work!

need space in the van for any other bits n bobs you may need to carry around for the day.
think about it - dont rush in! need space for other stuff? van payload? etc

What on earth did you think I meant? The biggest tank possible taking into account the size of van and other equipment needed in the van. I never said anything about spending £1000's.

The reason being that most will understand that spotting will be caused by a lack of rinsing. Which is often caused because of lack of water.