[♠Winp®oClean♠]

A suggestion re Radio control version of the V9. At the moment it is supplied with the radio aerial kit Ect and we recommend it goes on the roof so a hole needs drilling. how about a Magnetic mount fitting? No holes + no issue with range of getting a signal thru buildings

Yes, that would be great!

I use a digital varistream which hasn't missed a beat in about 3 years BUT I would change controller for the remote function.

Personally, I think I would prefer a pocket or maybe wristband remote unit, rather than pole mounted.

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

HI Sherwoodcleaning

Q. Can a soft start function be added to the unit when being used at max flow rate.

A.At the moment it is not possible to set up the V9 for a soft start i.e. a ramp up of the pump to the last set value. However it would be possible to update the controller software to do this. If this is a popular option people can send their controllers back for re-programming as long as they are the latest V9 version. Cost would be approximately £30.00.

I would be up for that. Mine is a liquid logic purchased from gardiners about 18 months ago. I'd probably be interested in another at some point to replace my old mk2 varistream.

Simon.

[Ian Sheppard]

A suggestion re Radio control version of the V9. At the moment it is supplied with the radio aerial kit Ect and we recommend it goes on the roof so a hole needs drilling. how about a Magnetic mount fitting? No holes + no issue with range of getting a signal thru buildings

Yes, that would be great!

I use a digital varistream which hasn't missed a beat in about 3 years BUT I would change controller for the remote function.

Personally, I think I would prefer a pocket or maybe wristband remote unit, rather than pole mounted.

Thats an easy one the radio control version V9 available through the usual distributors has a 2 butoon key fob that controls the flow rate 0 - 99

[Ian Sheppard]

HI Sherwoodcleaning

Q. Can a soft start function be added to the unit when being used at max flow rate.

A.At the moment it is not possible to set up the V9 for a soft start i.e. a ramp up of the pump to the last set value. However it would be possible to update the controller software to do this. If this is a popular option people can send their controllers back for re-programming as long as they are the latest V9 version. Cost would be approximately £30.00.

Simon I have emailed you directly with address details should you want to go ahead and have you controller upgraded.

I would be up for that. Mine is a liquid logic purchased from gardiners about 18 months ago. I'd probably be interested in another at some point to replace my old mk2 varistream.

Simon.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

A suggestion re Radio control version of the V9. At the moment it is supplied with the radio aerial kit Ect and we recommend it goes on the roof so a hole needs drilling. how about a Magnetic mount fitting? No holes + no issue with range of getting a signal thru buildings

Yes, that would be great!

I use a digital varistream which hasn't missed a beat in about 3 years BUT I would change controller for the remote function.

Personally, I think I would prefer a pocket or maybe wristband remote unit, rather than pole mounted.

Thats an easy one the radio control version V9 available through the usual distributors has a 2 butoon key fob that controls the flow rate 0 - 99

What about the aerial?

[Ian Sheppard]

Currently I know the aerials are drill through roof fittings, I do not see a big issue substituting these with a mag mount aerial. watch these space.

[CLEANCARE WC]

A suggestion re Radio control version of the V9. At the moment it is supplied with the radio aerial kit Ect and we recommend it goes on the roof so a hole needs drilling. how about a Magnetic mount fitting? No holes + no issue with range of getting a signal thru buildings

Yes, that would be great!

I use a digital varistream which hasn't missed a beat in about 3 years BUT I would change controller for the remote function.




Personally, I think I would prefer a pocket or maybe wristband remote unit, rather than pole mounted.

Thats an easy one the radio control version V9 available through the usual distributors has a 2 butoon key fob that controls the flow rate 0 - 99

are you saying remote controll varistreams already exist?

[Ian Sheppard]

A suggestion re Radio control version of the V9. At the moment it is supplied with the radio aerial kit Ect and we recommend it goes on the roof so a hole needs drilling. how about a Magnetic mount fitting? No holes + no issue with range of getting a signal thru buildings

Yes, that would be great!

I use a digital varistream which hasn't missed a beat in about 3 years BUT I would change controller for the remote function.




Personally, I think I would prefer a pocket or maybe wristband remote unit, rather than pole mounted.

Thats an easy one the radio control version V9 available through the usual distributors has a 2 butoon key fob that controls the flow rate 0 - 99

Q. are you saying remote controll varistreams already exist?

A. I can Not comment on the Varistream we do not make that controller.

 The Usual distributors can always get the radio control versions of the V9 Eco Flow Controller. The Distributors will often brand it slightly differently as mentioned in this stream. Our controller is the one with 3 digit display and 3 buttons.

[alanwilson]

Hello Ian - I admire you for coming on the forum and asking questions to improve your product but just be careful, some suppliers might not like people knowing where the equipment comes from!

We've just removed our varistreams and run all pumps off the pressure switches (full speed), I might update them with larger switches later.

[Lee GLS]

It's common knowledge when the pumps come from!

[John Walker]

Hello Ian - I admire you for coming on the forum and asking questions to improve your product but just be careful, some suppliers might not like people knowing where the equipment comes from!

We've just removed our varistreams and run all pumps off the pressure switches (full speed), I might update them with larger switches later.

Good idea - Might be best to use heavy duty relays to take the strain off the microswitch.

[Ian Sheppard]

Hello Ian - I admire you for coming on the forum and asking questions to improve your product but just be careful, some suppliers might not like people knowing where the equipment comes from!

We've just removed our varistreams and run all pumps off the pressure switches (full speed), I might update them with larger switches later.

Thanks Alan, I appreciate what you are saying there need to be a little wary. On the whole though if We can help people get the best out of their kit and improve it. In the end we all gain

[Ian Sheppard]

Hello Ian - I admire you for coming on the forum and asking questions to improve your product but just be careful, some suppliers might not like people knowing where the equipment comes from!

We've just removed our varistreams and run all pumps off the pressure switches (full speed), I might update them with larger switches later.

Good idea - Might be best to use heavy duty relays to take the strain off the microswitch.

You can run a pump on the pressure switch and operate without a controller. This may work for you but it does not work for everybody for a number of reasons:

1. In running the pump until it hits the pressure switch you are running the pump as hard as it can possibly work. This means that the pressure in the system will be at its absolute maximum. This puts strain on the hoses, on the fittings and on the pump. It therefore increases the chances of split hoses, leaking joints and increases wear on your pump, shortening its life.

2. As the pressure switch cuts out the pump is at maximum, working as hard as it possible can and therefore drawing maximum current from the battery. Hence as the switch opens it too is under great strain. The high current and the fact that the pump is an inductive load (with stored energy) means that the pressure switch contacts are likely to arc and eventually they will fail.

3. Without a controller the pump will not stop until it hits the pressure switch. With a controller with dead end detection properly calibrated the pump will be stopped a long time before this high pressure and high pump load. This means that because the pump is turned off earlier you are saving battery energy and hence increasing both the battery life but also the amount of time you can work on a battery charge.

4. Without any type of flow constrictor then the water will be at full flow. Good for putting out fires, but not so good for cleaning windows. The aim should be to work with only sufficient water to get a good clean. This is a benefit because the aim is to conserve the water and hence increase the amount of work possible from a tank. You also save time because you don't have to make as much pure water and you save resin as well. Working with large amounts of water can also cause a hazard for those around you, especially in cold conditions.

So by all means use the pressure switch, but these are the reasons that many people choose to use a controller.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Hello Ian - I admire you for coming on the forum and asking questions to improve your product but just be careful, some suppliers might not like people knowing where the equipment comes from!

We've just removed our varistreams and run all pumps off the pressure switches (full speed), I might update them with larger switches later.

Good idea - Might be best to use heavy duty relays to take the strain off the microswitch.

You can run a pump on the pressure switch and operate without a controller. This may work for you but it does not work for everybody for a number of reasons:

1. In running the pump until it hits the pressure switch you are running the pump as hard as it can possibly work. This means that the pressure in the system will be at its absolute maximum. This puts strain on the hoses, on the fittings and on the pump. It therefore increases the chances of split hoses, leaking joints and increases wear on your pump, shortening its life.

2. As the pressure switch cuts out the pump is at maximum, working as hard as it possible can and therefore drawing maximum current from the battery. Hence as the switch opens it too is under great strain. The high current and the fact that the pump is an inductive load (with stored energy) means that the pressure switch contacts are likely to arc and eventually they will fail.

3. Without a controller the pump will not stop until it hits the pressure switch. With a controller with dead end detection properly calibrated the pump will be stopped a long time before this high pressure and high pump load. This means that because the pump is turned off earlier you are saving battery energy and hence increasing both the battery life but also the amount of time you can work on a battery charge.

4. Without any type of flow constrictor then the water will be at full flow. Good for putting out fires, but not so good for cleaning windows. The aim should be to work with only sufficient water to get a good clean. This is a benefit because the aim is to conserve the water and hence increase the amount of work possible from a tank. You also save time because you don't have to make as much pure water and you save resin as well. Working with large amounts of water can also cause a hazard for those around you, especially in cold conditions.

So by all means use the pressure switch, but these are the reasons that many people choose to use a controller.

Totally agree

But add to that- a constant, reliable flow rate regardless of height being worked at.

To back the "pressure" issue up, all my barbed connections from tank to hose reel are held in place with a tie-wrap, not a jubilee clip in sight! Even my pole hose (minibore to 1/2" barb) connector is held on with just two small tie-wraps & zero leaks, not even a drop!

[dave.e]

Hello Ian - I admire you for coming on the forum and asking questions to improve your product but just be careful, some suppliers might not like people knowing where the equipment comes from!

We've just removed our varistreams and run all pumps off the pressure switches (full speed), I might update them with larger switches later.

Good idea - Might be best to use heavy duty relays to take the strain off the microswitch.

You can run a pump on the pressure switch and operate without a controller. This may work for you but it does not work for everybody for a number of reasons:

1. In running the pump until it hits the pressure switch you are running the pump as hard as it can possibly work. This means that the pressure in the system will be at its absolute maximum. This puts strain on the hoses, on the fittings and on the pump. It therefore increases the chances of split hoses, leaking joints and increases wear on your pump, shortening its life.

2. As the pressure switch cuts out the pump is at maximum, working as hard as it possible can and therefore drawing maximum current from the battery. Hence as the switch opens it too is under great strain. The high current and the fact that the pump is an inductive load (with stored energy) means that the pressure switch contacts are likely to arc and eventually they will fail.

3. Without a controller the pump will not stop until it hits the pressure switch. With a controller with dead end detection properly calibrated the pump will be stopped a long time before this high pressure and high pump load. This means that because the pump is turned off earlier you are saving battery energy and hence increasing both the battery life but also the amount of time you can work on a battery charge.

4. Without any type of flow constrictor then the water will be at full flow. Good for putting out fires, but not so good for cleaning windows. The aim should be to work with only sufficient water to get a good clean. This is a benefit because the aim is to conserve the water and hence increase the amount of work possible from a tank. You also save time because you don't have to make as much pure water and you save resin as well. Working with large amounts of water can also cause a hazard for those around you, especially in cold conditions.

So by all means use the pressure switch, but these are the reasons that many people choose to use a controller.

ian i have been running a shurflo pump 100 psi 6.4 lt without a flow controller for 3/1/2 years with no problems what so ever. it was only in the last 12 months i went over to a flow con and have had nothing else but trouble. the shurflo pump in question i have still got and still working.

PS i wanted to ask you could you please take a look at the pure freedom one i have because it was sent back to them they checked it over and told me nothing was wrong but guess what its still the same so i am at a loose end at the mo. the flow con is 10 months old its as much use to me as a chocolate spoon.
cheers Dave

[Ian Sheppard]

Hello Ian - I admire you for coming on the forum and asking questions to improve your product but just be careful, some suppliers might not like people knowing where the equipment comes from!

We've just removed our varistreams and run all pumps off the pressure switches (full speed), I might update them with larger switches later.

Good idea - Might be best to use heavy duty relays to take the strain off the microswitch.

You can run a pump on the pressure switch and operate without a controller. This may work for you but it does not work for everybody for a number of reasons:

1. In running the pump until it hits the pressure switch you are running the pump as hard as it can possibly work. This means that the pressure in the system will be at its absolute maximum. This puts strain on the hoses, on the fittings and on the pump. It therefore increases the chances of split hoses, leaking joints and increases wear on your pump, shortening its life.

2. As the pressure switch cuts out the pump is at maximum, working as hard as it possible can and therefore drawing maximum current from the battery. Hence as the switch opens it too is under great strain. The high current and the fact that the pump is an inductive load (with stored energy) means that the pressure switch contacts are likely to arc and eventually they will fail.

3. Without a controller the pump will not stop until it hits the pressure switch. With a controller with dead end detection properly calibrated the pump will be stopped a long time before this high pressure and high pump load. This means that because the pump is turned off earlier you are saving battery energy and hence increasing both the battery life but also the amount of time you can work on a battery charge.

4. Without any type of flow constrictor then the water will be at full flow. Good for putting out fires, but not so good for cleaning windows. The aim should be to work with only sufficient water to get a good clean. This is a benefit because the aim is to conserve the water and hence increase the amount of work possible from a tank. You also save time because you don't have to make as much pure water and you save resin as well. Working with large amounts of water can also cause a hazard for those around you, especially in cold conditions.

So by all means use the pressure switch, but these are the reasons that many people choose to use a controller.

ian i have been running a shurflo pump 100 psi 6.4 lt without a flow controller for 3/1/2 years with no problems what so ever. it was only in the last 12 months i went over to a flow con and have had nothing else but trouble. the shurflo pump in question i have still got and still working.

PS i wanted to ask you could you please take a look at the pure freedom one i have because it was sent back to them they checked it over and told me nothing was wrong but guess what its still the same so i am at a loose end at the mo. the flow con is 10 months old its as much use to me as a chocolate spoon.
cheers Dave

Dave Yes we are happy to try and help, What issues are you having with the controller in particular? Also can I ask is it the Digital V9 Version? is your pressure Switch in or out of the circuit?
We sometimes find that the issue is with the auto calibration set up in regard to the dead end detection if this is set to low it can cause the pump to start cycling as the controller retests for DE every 3 seconds.

[dave.e]

Hi ian i will sent you an email later with the problem i am having with the flow con
many thanks dave

[Ian Sheppard]

No problem Dave glad to help where we can

[dave.e]

No problem Dave glad to help where we can

Ian can you please email me your email so i can tell you what's wrong with this flow controller thanks Dave
           pure.window@googlemail.com

[Ian Sheppard]

No Problem I will do that now