[M.Acorn]

Just quoted on the church my mother attends and works at 4195 sq foot,18 month old carpet tiles,covered in t and coffee stains,ground in biscuits etc,they paid over 10 grand to have them fitted.
I was coming out at over a grand,going to look at my price and possibly bonnet it,said I will do it for £600.00,been told their budget is £300.
Looks like they will be putting up with dirty carpets !!

[Colin Day]

So they are basically saying they'll give just over 13p per foot.... How long would you anticipate the job taking you?

[M.Acorn]

Looking at a day Colin,no pun intended 

Minimum I will go down to is £600,so will have too see what they say,not really that fussed if I am honest,work is stacking up for me at the mo

[Hilton]

C'mon your mother works there, its a church not Barclays and think of the good will,

I would do it, £300 for the day isn't so bad for a nice flat job, easy carpet tile LM clean.

I bet other work would come from, we do a large church carpets around the alter, its always dirty and has candle wax on it, bit of a pain but we see as part of our community and we are putting something back. They always refer us first for everything and we have more than got our money back for a 'cheap' clean once a year.

[M.Acorn]

Yeah will see what the other company come in at,and I will do what I can for her,could use it as practise as never done bonnet buffing on carpet before.
I am a Pagan,so it's not really my scene

[JandS]

Can't believe you'd turn down £300 for
a days work.

John

[clinton]

It will pay for a buffer too mark so maybe do the job as it all caint be covered with t n coffee n cake

[Steve Chapman]

£1 a square mtr is the norm in alot of areas, so they're expectations probably not far off,

 i would do it but ask for a constant supply of tea and cakes and get them to give leaflets to all there

members,

Jobs a good un 

Steve

[M.Acorn]

Buffer was paid for after my first tile and grout job last month.
It's pretty grim,they spent ten grand on them,if they want them to last they need top look into having them done at least once a year.
Will be seeing if I can accommodate their budget,maybe on the proviso that they book me every year for a hwe job,and 6 monthly for stains and traffic areas ,will also want an a4 size framed ad up in their foyer,saying carpets cleaned and maintained by me...They are a large church,so they have a lot of potential customers

[Neil Williams]

I was coming out at over a grand,going to look at my price and possibly bonnet it,said I will do it for £600.00,been told their budget is £300.

You're having a laff aren't you.
466 sq/m it's a church not Barclays bank ffs and a days work bonneting (if you take anything in from this forum) at one location, one set up normally sells around the £1/meter range.
If you've got any sense try ans split the difference between £300 and £600 and accept that as a good days money.
A grand :

[wynne jones]

If you don't want it below a certain price don't do it. Someone else will happily do it for 2/3 hundred.

I wouldn't do it for £300 that's for sure but you could do it for that and by the time you have finished practicing you will probably know what you are doing on your next one.

Church's are always pleading poverty, don't be fooled they have lots of money they just don't want to spend any of it. How many churches near you run Slimming world clubs? Do they let them rent it for free? I don't think so.

[M.Acorn]

They are a specialist church,do the Alpha course and stuff,the congregation donate monthly from their salary !!

There are a lot more people round here that are way more expensive than me,it's a wealthy area,have been doing houses for way more than that.
Like I said,see what the next guy quotes,then I will know where I need to be price wise,have cleaned the smaller rooms up there,and charged normal rates.
But they spend 10k on carpet,would you not think they would want to make them last,try possibly doing something before it got so bad,they have been using rug doctor chemicals on it,even though I got them to get a Prochem spotting kit,and they have been trained in what to do.
a tenth of the total cost of the carpet ,wouldn't of gone in at 1.1k would have done a £700 day rate,however many hours it takes

[Helen]

Looking at a day Colin,no pun intended 

Minimum I will go down to is £600,so will have too see what they say,not really that fussed if I am honest,work is stacking up for me at the mo

If work is stacking up that's good, but look at the potential work from doing this job!
Free advertising, do they have other contacts and buildings within their religion, again all those congregations just waiting to have their carpets cleaned at home and where they work as well!
Why miss the chance of all that, by sticking to a high end price when for just lowering your rates to a reasonable cost you could be set for months and months of work.
They may have spent £10k on having the fitting, but work it out, approx 470 sq mt supplied and fitted comes in at around £22 per sq mt.

[Shaun_Ashmore]

I would tell them your dilema and how you arrrived at your price with your quality then negotiate!

There are a few ways to do this
 
1. Try and get £450
2. £300 and 1 year full page ad in parish mag with testimonial from the vicar

Church goers often buy from parish mags (birds of a feather)look at it as ongoing advertising for the quiet times.

Shaun

[davep]

If it's 400 sq meters then 5 hrs max

[derek west]

i get it to 389 sq meters.

[Neil Williams]

i get it to 389 sq meters.

4195 divide by 9 gives 466 sq/yards
I know there is a nominal difference between yards and meters which is why most of just accept them as much the same.

[M.Acorn]

God incorporated is worth a lot of money,if they got every member of the congregation to give an extra pound,they would get double that..

[Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)]

As ever it'll boil down to how desperate you are for the job. If you're desperate for work you'll drop your price. If you're not then you'll stick out for a higher price. Some thoughts however...

churches don't negotiate the size of their gas bill, so...

people buy people. If the "powers that be" like you then that is half the battle. All you have to do then is meet in the middle on the price but the important thing is to get away from the price being the defining issue.

you could stick out for the price you want but then agree to "tithe" (give 10%) of the price to one of the church's nominated charities. Although you may leave yourself open to a charge of hypocrite.

Must say Marc I personally agree with your take on the price. I'd have been looking for at least £600. But there again I'm not desperate for work.

Rog

[Matt Lindus]

They are wanting you to do it for 7 pence per sq ft!