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Richard iSparkle

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2011, 12:19:16 pm »
also too point out as long as you werent dropping these leaflets to large houses off executive size run of the mill housing estates etc upto 4 bed detached size i dont see the problem in charging ten quid

you re a lot more experienced than me richy so you know what you're doing.

i would be worried that regulars would get in touch and expect the same offer which could really screw up your regular income.  i can imagine the conversation...  "so if i cancel my service, and come back as a new customer you will clean my home for £10..."  the last thing i would 2want myself is to take on 2 employees, a new van, and then my profit margins to drop on my expected income  :'(
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spongebob

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2011, 05:32:17 pm »
i dont have loadsa van i have one n iv put deposit down on a second!!! im not short of work but i would like too gain a lot more as have taken on my second employee this is reason im looking at gaining new custom as even if it was a 4 bed house maybe worth 20quid the speed these two lads work together even earning ten quid would be a fair price

Go for it mate. Its a different outlook when you employ. if you charge £10 and they clean all your new work you get at this price then you could look at making £50 to £80 a day profit from them. Work that over the year and its a no brainer. I am surprised at some of the comments on here. There is a complete difference between maxing out your own time/money as a single cleaner and maxing out profit from staff.

Johnny B

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2011, 06:14:05 pm »
Threads like this always keep me coming back for more!

If the guy wants to charge £10 per house regardless of size, what has it got to do with anyone? It's his business.
Hope it goes well for him.

It seems to me that these days it's better to have lower priced work than none at all. As for devaluing our work, why can't we be content with what we have, be happy for each other? At this point I am diving for cover and awaiting fallout!   ;D

John   
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

Tom White

Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2011, 06:25:11 pm »
If the guy wants to charge £10 per house regardless of size, what has it got to do with anyone? It's his business.

Er, it was posted on an interweb forum, so I'm guessing Spongebob wanted some feedback and opinions.

Hope it goes well for him.

Me too, but I still don't think it's a good idea.  I don't think it's a good idea to mention money at all on a flyer, to be honest. 

sgibsoncleaning

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2011, 06:37:59 pm »
Threads like this always keep me coming back for more!

If the guy wants to charge £10 per house regardless of size, what has it got to do with anyone? It's his business.
Hope it goes well for him.

It seems to me that these days it's better to have lower priced work than none at all. As for devaluing our work, why can't we be content with what we have, be happy for each other? At this point I am diving for cover and awaiting fallout!   ;D

John   
by richie saying "what do you think" he is asking for opinions
this is a discussion not an agreement thread

still think its a dodgy idea now due to the fact i got 2 25 quid jobs booked in tomorrow

Paul Coleman

Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2011, 07:33:18 pm »
What next?  The one pound plonker?

Johnny B

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2011, 07:52:43 pm »
Point taken guys.

This is why I you will never find me asking 'What do you think...'
type questions about the way I conduct my business. If I did, I know exactly what the reactions would be.  ;)

John.   
Being diplomatic is being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip.

richywilts

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2011, 09:08:07 pm »
i was just wondering i price at the higher end for my area so i thought even getting sum of them houses on for a tenner its prob rnd the normal price what window cleaners charge, i wouldnt expect too lose that many customers after 12 months even with any increases in price coz once someone is happy theyd prob carry on regardless becuase they know it would be hard to find another regular quality cleaner and you would have 12 months to find out if theyre a good customer
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

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mci services

Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2011, 09:15:25 pm »
actually I can now see where you are coming from, for example I live on an estate of 4 or 500 houses that I pretty much just charge the same price regardless, and because I know the area if someone phones from this estate I give a price there and then without looking, so long as you pick out estates that are like this then it could work

richywilts

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2011, 09:18:52 pm »
i dont think im gna use it yet but maybe if i move too new areas wjere it wont cause conflict with current customers
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

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groundhog

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2011, 09:31:19 pm »
More work less money!! Never a good idea in my opinion!!!  :o

spongebob

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2011, 10:58:37 pm »
If the guy wants to charge £10 per house regardless of size, what has it got to do with anyone? It's his business.

Er, it was posted on an interweb forum, so I'm guessing Spongebob wanted some feedback and opinions.

Hope it goes well for him.

Me too, but I still don't think it's a good idea.  I don't think it's a good idea to mention money at all on a flyer, to be honest.  

Hi Tosh.
I didn't mention money on my first batch of flyers , or my name or my address.
I got feedback from them that I should have as people who knew me and my family would have signed up on that basis alone. Then the same feedback on price. They didn't want to phone and ask. It almost seemed impolite. Put the tenner on that I wanted and bingo they just call to book.
If I can get the flyers through doors using anyone who's free it's better than not at all. The jobs would price up at a tenner anyway.

As an example I have a friend who has retrained as a sparky and is out dropping flyers to every house in my village. Thats about 600 houses. He is dropping mine also.He moves out to the next local villages to me and potentially we will drop say 5000. I have had a call today from a lady in a large bungalow. I know it well without seeing it close up. She tells me it is not your average 3/4 bed house and I have told her between £15 to £20. Thats lovely she says , carry on please. Now the leaflet is in front of her with the price which she referred to but uses her common sense. I am picking up 1 to 2 customers a day in this fashion from 100 leaflets dropped as a rough guess. I pay him £10 per confirmed clean. It pays for his own leaflets. As I said before I would estimate that overall I am only about 10% down on income on these jobs than if they were priced individually. The upside is the speed at which I am picking up work and they do get sold conny roofs and fascias etc which more than covers his commission and the 10% shortfall. The work is very local.

Anyway as Johnny B says "we should all be happy with what we got".
It will be interesting to see whats happened this time next year. How many tenners will I have monthly? Did Richy do it? Will we both be able to keep up with the headache of too many staff and vans or will we both be working for BFG ;D

richywilts

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2011, 05:48:38 pm »
i think i may go balls out n run with this idea iv got a feeling it could bring in quite a bit of work
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Paul Coleman

Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #53 on: April 13, 2011, 06:33:03 pm »
It may well work -depending on the business model that you use (ignore my earlier jest about one pound plonker  :) .
I don't think it would be much good for a sole trader.  However, if you have guys working for (subbing from) you who are on a straight percentage only, who supply the vehicle/water etc., then there is a guaranteed profit in it.  Whether or not you hold onto your guys, due to the ten pound stuff making it too hard for them, is another matter of course.  Even if you only make £2 a job, if your only input is the admin then it may just work.

richywilts

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #54 on: April 13, 2011, 07:07:10 pm »
iv got two lads who work for me id put in the terms and conditions and small print anything up to executive style size housing etc and it would only be for 12months fixed price of 10quid and we would give them a price for thereafter its basically a way of signing people up for 12months to see the true benefits of our business and see how we operate, as well as pulling in a lot of work to pay staff while there aint really enough just yet for 2 staff the speed there pushing thru my work.

oh paul ur comment didnt bother me i asked for peoples opinions i knew there would be 50/50 for and against
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

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www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

wpclean

Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2011, 07:20:52 pm »
Instead of competing on price, I explain that the frames will be included with the price . . . . and because they are cleaned with wfp it only takes a few seconds more.      I have been pushing this for a few months now and have picked up quite a bit of work.  ;D

Spruce

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2011, 07:30:39 pm »
Of course the flyer could be area targeted to new estates where most of the houses are the same. The price of £10.00 should have the small word 'from' in front of it. We have a house that has a conservatory that has more than twice as much glass to clean as the house its self.
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richywilts

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2011, 09:37:51 pm »
i aint got a problem pulling in work but i wana pull in work fast and not have to faff around quoting n all that trying to push sales i can trial this for trial period of 3 months and have offer runs out at set date etc
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

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www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2011, 09:43:33 pm »
richy go for it m8 you got
nout to lose n loads to gain
i know you are very capable
of pulling in the work n
most of yours is quality
it will defo get you the quantity you need
what about using yr canvasser again
he got you a lot of good stuff ;) ;) ;)
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Frankybadboy

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Re: THE TEN QUID CLEANER
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2011, 09:46:54 pm »
richy why dont you do for only 6 mth and not the 12. ;)