[Moderator David@stives]

Anyone here work out of a Bipper ?

If so what tank have you got ?

[erithwc]

i love the look of those vans not sure about using them for wfp though, when i went to the dealer they told me the 610 payload don't include driver or fuel,

drive and fuel is about - 130kg
350ltr tank and water  - 380kg
bucket and tools          -   10kg
ladder                           - 100kg
water pump& poles      -     5kg

total                              - 625kg

i know the weight are i bit of but overall i think you nwould be close to or over the payload  
if im wrong please tell me because im a one man band and really lake the van  

[Ian101]

interesting as been looking at one of these ... 610KG payload in such a small van. rekon u could poss get a 400 litre in there even if mounted lengthways ??

most days 400 litres be enough for me (and a few spare 25l barrels in footwell  )

cheap van and about 45 / 50 mpg i seem to recall

post office have hundreds of em around here - North Wales

[Ian101]

i love the look of those vans not sure about using them for wfp though, when i went to the dealer they told me the 610 payload don't include driver or fuel,

drive and fuel is about - 130kg
350ltr tank and water  - 380kg
bucket and tools          -   10kg
ladder                           - 100kg
water pump& poles      -     5kg

total                              - 625kg

i know the weight are i bit of but overall i think you nwould be close to or over the payload  
if im wrong please tell me because im a one man band and really lake the van  

do u need proper ladders daily cos those telescopic ladders would save u weight if u just need them 4 access purposes ?

[LWC]

100kg ladder! wow what ladders do you use lol

[erithwc]

i did say the weights are out but im sure the 610 payload isnt enough for a wfp setup

i have thougt about renting one for a day fill it up with all the stuff needed and take it to a weigh bridge

[LWC]

Lol yeh i know but imagine carrying 4 barrels over your shoulder

[Ian101]

610kg should be enough I think for a one man set up.

Did the maths on this last week for the financial side ... you can lease 1 of these for about £180 + VAT with 3 payments up front. fuel saving against my transit would be approx £80 a month at todays prices.

£216 a month rental inc vat

less £45 a month in tax claimable (25% of £180) @100% qualifying pre vat rental.

£216 becomes £171 less £80 fuel saving becomes £91 divide by 4.33333 weeks becomes £21 a week for a new van ....... think I just sold myself a new bipper van .... btw I used to sell cars ... can you guess 

[C.C.S.]

100kg ladder! wow what ladders do you use lol

i think it's including the roof rack which can be very heavy.

[G Griffin]

100kg ladder! wow what ladders do you use lol

That`s what I thought!   Is that with you on them?
You are looking at 15- 20kg for a ladder.

Good work, Ian 101.

[Ian101]

oh and about £2000 cash back on transit as worth more than the deposit

[LWC]

100kg ladder! wow what ladders do you use lol

i think it's including the roof rack which can be very heavy.

Even with roof rack it wouldnt be that much! I think some of you guys need to get down the gym 

[bobby p]

i too really like the look of the bipper,as a trad wagon. HOWEVER ,last week a bipper pulled up at a junction near where i was up a ladder  and it suddenly revved up TO THE MAX  and stuck there screaming !  (maybe an electrical fault ?) .    this put me off a bit    

[Wc Solutions]

we nearly bought one - but went with the partner in the end

i think the bipper is just a little too small imo .... ok you can get the tank and hose reel in there but thats it .... no room for those days when the other bits n bobs are needed

[GoodFella2006]

I rented one when my combo was at repairs.

Couldn't fit a 350l flat tank as it was plylined.

My 21ft xtel pole didn't go inside as there was bulkhead.

But it's a very nippy and economical van,feels more like a small car.

[AuRavelling79]

oh and about £2000 cash back on transit as worth more than the deposit

Don't forget the balloon rental and the peppercorn tho' Ian!

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

You're better off with a Fiat Doblo 1.3 TD multijet. Still get 45/50mpg fully loaded.

Lots more room & a higher payload!

[GoodFella2006]

You're better off with a Fiat Doblo 1.3 TD multijet. Still get 45/50mpg fully loaded.

Lots more room & a higher payload!

That must be the smallest turbo diesel engine,wonder if it pulls ok loaded at full payload.

[Ian101]

oh and about £2000 cash back on transit as worth more than the deposit

Don't forget the balloon rental and the peppercorn tho' Ian!

very true but if i get to a level of new van just trade it in for a new un ... if baloon / residual set correctly should always be enough equity left in van after baloon / resdidual cleared.

one thing to bear in mind that unlike PCP or Personal Contract Plan for private individual (PCP = Ford Options or Peugeot Passport or Toyota Terms etc etc they all have a scheme called summit different) the MGFV (minimum guaranteed future value) IS NOT GURANTEED ON A LEASE (it is on a PCP subject to miles being as declared when 1st taking out the plan)


eg if baloon on van set as £2500 for and worth £3200 at trade in time then the other £700 goes towards deposit on next van. ... if u have wrecked van and does loads of miles then basically it aint worth the baloon and ur donald ducked  

[AuRavelling79]

You're better off with a Fiat Doblo 1.3 TD multijet. Still get 45/50mpg fully loaded.

Lots more room & a higher payload!

That must be the smallest turbo diesel engine,wonder if it pulls ok loaded at full payload.

I've had mine from new for over four years with a 400L tank and it's fine.