[P @ F]

Well done Paul Coleman , figures at the end of your post that i can relate to , thought i was not earning enough for a moment , not saying all other claims are BS though !

Rich

[Paul Coleman]

Well done Paul Coleman , figures at the end of your post that i can relate to , thought i was not earning enough for a moment , not saying all other claims are BS though !

Rich

What I wrote is what I regard as fairly typical and normal.  Of course there have been  days when I've exceeded that - occasionally by a very big margin.  There have also been odd days where I've just not been up for it and gone home once I've got to £50.  There's no way I would put my income upon here.  I've nothing to hide as I am honest in my dealings and there are many weeks when I choose not to work a  full week.  There are also times when I choose to work some of  the weekend.  Been out this afternoon and spent a couple of hours on a commercial job.  Pretty convenient really as it's only a mile or two from where I live.  I also worked on domestic till midday yesterday (Saturday).  L.P's project x and a football match saw to it that I didn't do a full day 

[cozy]

So Dartford.you knock out 60 quid an hour all day every day then? Anyone else who doesn't must have underpriced crap uncompact rounds? So 60 quid an hour for a 5 day week for you is between 2000  and 2400 quid on your own is it?

[Johnny B]

This type of thread always makes me smile ... a lot.

I have been going 14 years, and make a small fraction of some of the figures being quoted on here.

I do believe it is possible to make the kind of money that is being stated, so I am not by any means implying anyone is being untruthful here. What is impossible, is that I could achieve that, because of me being excrutiatingly slow, and being borderline OCD with regard to expecting perfection before being satisfied that each window and frame meets my expectations of cleanness.

If I took what some of you are saying seriously with regard to what some regard as the 'going rate', I would give up the will to live as I would consider myself a complete and utter failure.
This is because I refuse to subscribe to the 'going rate', because I personally could not achieve those figures if I tried.

Fact is, I make a good enough living doing things my way without having to try to put others down by saying that 'your round is no good' or 'you don't know how to run a business'.

I have my wife, 4 children, and we have a roof, food and clothing and the bills get paid. I must be doing something right.












Still smiling!  
 
John.  

[Danny Guest]

I have been a bit slated for stating a fact
I said that there is an estate that two of us clean WFP ie me and the Mrs and that on this particular estate, we end up with £100 per hour being earned, well £103.50 ph the last time we cleaned it 3 weeks ago.
I also stated that at the other far extreme there are a couple of rounds we do when we go as low as £50 per hour.
Fair comments dont you think?
Well some have slated me for posting it, some have more or less called me a liar !!! (those who think im a bull pooter are welcome to come along with us next time)
Anyway i would just like to pose this question
WOULD IT BE OUT OF THE QUESTION FOR A TWO MAN OPERATION TO TAKE £100 IN AN HOUR ON COMPACT NEW BUILD WORK??
If everbody answers NO then i will aggree iam a bull pooter
cheers
trippy

If i was you i would not be bothered what anyone thinks just get on with it.

The most important point im making is that my business comes first and no matter what anyone thinks thats the priority.
It doesnt mean you earn more or improve your business if people believe you so i would just put my head down let them think what they like and put all my energy into making the business a bigger success.

Danny

[roundbuilder]

So Dartford.you knock out 60 quid an hour all day every day then? Anyone else who doesn't must have underpriced crap uncompact rounds? So 60 quid an hour for a 5 day week for you is between 2000  and 2400 quid on your own is it?

yes mate that is correct i work on my own all my houses are between £10 and £30 averaging at £20. i dont see your problem or why you are doubting me. i dont exactly work hard i clean between 10 and 15 houses a day none of them are massive or take that long, mainly rows of victorian terrace houses. its not often i start before 9 or get  home after 2. i prob could hit the weekly figures you are talking about if i canvassed up a bit more and did an extra hour a day but to be honest i have worked hard to get my round as compact and well priced as i have taking me 3 years of canvassing 3 nights a week dropping and replacing underpriced and bad paying customers my target at the end of the long tunnel was minimal input for maximum output.

[Paul Coleman]

So Dartford.you knock out 60 quid an hour all day every day then? Anyone else who doesn't must have underpriced crap uncompact rounds? So 60 quid an hour for a 5 day week for you is between 2000  and 2400 quid on your own is it?

yes mate that is correct i work on my own all my houses are between £10 and £30 averaging at £20. i dont see your problem or why you are doubting me. i dont exactly work hard i clean between 10 and 15 houses a day none of them are massive or take that long, mainly rows of victorian terrace houses. its not often i start before 9 or get  home after 2. i prob could hit the weekly figures you are talking about if i canvassed up a bit more and did an extra hour a day but to be honest i have worked hard to get my round as compact and well priced as i have taking me 3 years of canvassing 3 nights a week dropping and replacing underpriced and bad paying customers my target at the end of the long tunnel was minimal input for maximum output.

I also find that a higher hourly rate is possible if I work a shorter day.  It's just about the rate that energy gets used up.  I've been out before knowing that I would be finishing after 3 hours.  The speed I worked at was astonishing.  A far higher hourly rate than if I would have been doing a full day.  I need to pace myself on longer days but as the age of 54 approaches and not being particularly fit, that's hardly surprising I suppose.

[cozy]

Dartford, OK, so it's not 2400 every week then is it? You have guys on here that can't get their round as compact as others. If they work in an area where 2 or 3 other WC's work, how can they get their round more compact than it already is?

Hourly rates (On the glass) can be misleading, as in your post. The post lead others to believe that you worked a 7 or 8 hour day at 100 quid. Not the case though is it? Do you see what I mean?

[Smudger]

Cozy - chill mate !

relax and revel in that wondeerful 3-1 score line 

Darran

[cozy]

Cozy - chill mate !

relax and revel in that wondeerful 3-1 score line 

Darran

I'm that relaxed mate, so laid back, I can't see over my own pelvis. Crackin game 

[cozy]

Yeah, it's probably just me.

[Sean Dyer]

he is stating just that 2 people do £50 a hour generally

and on one round he can double it

Its not hard math and its not unrealistic

Most might not do it but  they probably work alone and so cant see them figures often

Trouble with these posts are the people who dont earn that start to get green and so deny its possible

I do think you have to watch for bs but i wouldnt necessarily think trippy is lying

Whether i believe he does that 5 days a week 8 hours a day is something else, but i believe its possible to do what he said he does

And its where we all should be taking our work if you want a decent wage out of it

At the end of the day if your not happy with what you earn personally , just do something about it and use people who do better than you currently as inspiration and as a point to head for rather than disbelieving them as then you are putting limits on your possible achievements if you dont think certain figures are possible

But i would agree with Paul Colemans figures as general, i tend to fall into that bracket when working alone plodding most days, but i am trying to improve my round constantly

Apart from today , im having a day off after a busy weekend

[cozy]

Oh dear, I appear to be green Sean The guy isn't happy if he isn't earning a quid a minute. That's what he said. I've lost interest now but the way he came accross was that 100 quid an hour was the going rate blah blah blah.

Having said all this, I get shocked at the earnings banded about on here. As someone pointed out earlier, these top earners are the first to whinge when it gets too cold to work. Then they only got into WCing to earn a few quid and have alot of free quality time with family blah blah. Then they earn 60 quid minmum and if others don't then they need to get themselves sorted etc etc.

It's like s e x, those who don't get enough blabber about it most. (That's me by the way ) There are guys on here who come on here for tips and advice. Great to hear tips like if you aint earning 60 an hour, your doing something wrong. :

Keep it up lads. At least I'm impressed.

Before I go out to earn a few sheckles this afternoon. For anyone to be so impressed with what they earn in this job, must have been collecting empty beer cans for scrap before they got into WCing.

[Johnny B]

Good post Cozy.

John.