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dazmond

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2011, 07:04:03 pm »
78 windows £120?sounds like a rip off to me!! ;D ;D


if good access how long do you think itll take to clean including set up and driving to next job?

2 hours say.id want £70.

all the other prices are way too low IMO.they ll be doleys at them prices.deserve to lose the work!! >:( >:(


dazmond
price higher/work harder!

A & J Owen Window Cleaning

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2011, 07:08:15 pm »
as the man sez they are way beyond the times on pricing just bin canvassing and the rediculas prices thats goin around shocked me man £5 for a semi what these blokes on or just some cash for the drugs maybe

bobplum

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2011, 09:40:58 pm »
i fancy getting a few in at Eccleston so I can spread my grasp on Chester  ;)

it was me actually,i have taken it on myself to stop you taking over chester,im doing for the good of the people ;D ;D

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2011, 09:43:21 pm »
u still got that 250l flat tank bob
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

Sean Dyer

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2011, 09:53:22 pm »
78 windows £120?sounds like a rip off to me!! ;D ;D


if good access how long do you think itll take to clean including set up and driving to next job?

2 hours say.id want £70.

all the other prices are way too low IMO.they ll be doleys at them prices.deserve to lose the work!! >:( >:(



Not necesarily doleys daz

If you reckon you can do it in 2 hours, 2 guys can do it in 1 hour

Thats what? £15 in wages a bit more in costs, so if you charge £50 your 50 % in profit as an employer, however its a shaky way to run a business as the profit would drop on larger jobs, and they have to drive between etc, i dont understand why people who have staff price lower than what seems normal to a sole trader(although not all do ) as they dont seem to last/make money

But some do !! Although if they had 100;s of them they would make money i suppose
dazmond

mikecam

Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2011, 09:57:07 pm »
not me m8 lol
tenner a pop me chester !!!!!
mind you over hough green
im closer to 25 quid lol ;D ;D ;D
Gav do you do Hough green ,widnes?

Mike_G

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2011, 09:57:50 pm »
It sounds like less than 2 hours worth of work so £20 - £25 per hour, oh yeah thats shocking

Dave66

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2011, 10:01:36 pm »
i know....i want £50 an hour!!
plenty of cream...plenty of sugar!

mci services

Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2011, 10:03:12 pm »
It sounds like less than 2 hours worth of work so £20 - £25 per hour, oh yeah thats shocking
;D

thought it was just me thinking that ::) commercial any weather £20 an hour is not bad


NJWindowCleaning

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2011, 10:08:18 pm »
I was asked to price up a retirement home today.

Called to view the property, nice big old house with a few annexes. Quite a few old wooden sash windows that were a bit rotten but should'nt cause any problem. Good access all round.

Altogether around 78 windows. So off I trot to see the manager for some details. She wants it done every 2 months and has already had 2 quotes of.....wait for it....£40 & £50!!!  :o :o :o

Now I'm not cheap but not expensive and I nearly collapsed when I heard this, I was thinking £120!!!

Got to speaking to the handyman outside and he said the lads who were cleaning before were charging £23! He also mentioned an email from the homes owner who wanted the windows cleaned for £15!!! WTF!!!!

Needless to say I will be putting a quote in but fully expect NOT to get it!  :o

How can you make any money from a clean like this?  ???
  Why do ppl want to work for these crazy prices, have they no self respect?
Good job they didnt asking me to give them a price as my price for them would of been near the £250.00 mark or about £3.21 per window. As I have done a one off clean in Madeley for similar amount of windows.  

luther1

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2011, 10:14:19 pm »
It sounds like less than 2 hours worth of work so £20 - £25 per hour, oh yeah thats shocking
;D

thought it was just me thinking that ::) commercial any weather £20 an hour is not bad



Exactly.Any weather,Saturday morn,earlier in the morning,later during the summer. I'm sure i'd squeeze in a 2hr commercial for £50

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2011, 10:29:38 pm »
I was asked to price up a retirement home today.

Called to view the property, nice big old house with a few annexes. Quite a few old wooden sash windows that were a bit rotten but should'nt cause any problem. Good access all round.

Altogether around 78 windows. So off I trot to see the manager for some details. She wants it done every 2 months and has already had 2 quotes of.....wait for it....£40 & £50!!!  :o :o :o

Now I'm not cheap but not expensive and I nearly collapsed when I heard this, I was thinking £120!!!

Got to speaking to the handyman outside and he said the lads who were cleaning before were charging £23! He also mentioned an email from the homes owner who wanted the windows cleaned for £15!!! WTF!!!!

Needless to say I will be putting a quote in but fully expect NOT to get it!  :o

How can you make any money from a clean like this?  ???
  Why do ppl want to work for these crazy prices, have they no self respect?
Good job they didnt asking me to give them a price as my price for them would of been near the £250.00 mark or about £3.21 per window. As I have done a one off clean in Madeley for similar amount of windows.  

madeley nr stoke i know it well ;) ;)
LET YOUR PANES BE MY PLEASURE

"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

AuRavelling79

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2011, 10:35:13 pm »
If you are quoting commercial work - which this is - then make a big play of the fact that you have insurance. Scare them witless about being claimed against if they let an uninsured windy on their site and the consequences to him if he breaks a window onto a resident or falls off of his ladder onto a resident!!!!  ;D
It's a game of three halves!

L.J.Thorpe

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2011, 10:38:11 pm »
It sounds like less than 2 hours worth of work so £20 - £25 per hour, oh yeah thats shocking
;D

thought it was just me thinking that ::) commercial any weather £20 an hour is not bad



Exactly.Any weather,Saturday morn,earlier in the morning,later during the summer. I'm sure i'd squeeze in a 2hr commercial for £50
agree entirely £50 sounds fine to me

dazmond

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2011, 12:07:38 am »
£20 an hour is rubbish money on commercial IMO




a few commercial jobs i clean im earning between £40-£60.never below £30 an hour.
price higher/work harder!

mci services

Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2011, 12:18:58 am »
£20 an hour is rubbish money on commercial IMO




a few commercial jobs i clean im earning between £40-£60.never below £30 an hour.

other way round up here dazmond, commercial cheap as chips and domestic well it is up to you, some are cheap and some make more ;)

as long as we are all making money who cares ;D I put up a pic on a job that takes me 2 hours on a forum and it was getting quoted at £200 + by some, I get £50 wind ,snow, sleet whatever and I am happy enough but each to their own I suppose

luther1

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2011, 12:19:32 am »
78 windows wouldn't take much longer than an hour,surely?

Paul Coleman

Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2011, 12:47:16 am »
I was asked to price up a retirement home today.

Called to view the property, nice big old house with a few annexes. Quite a few old wooden sash windows that were a bit rotten but should'nt cause any problem. Good access all round.

Altogether around 78 windows. So off I trot to see the manager for some details. She wants it done every 2 months and has already had 2 quotes of.....wait for it....£40 & £50!!!  :o :o :o

Now I'm not cheap but not expensive and I nearly collapsed when I heard this, I was thinking £120!!!

Got to speaking to the handyman outside and he said the lads who were cleaning before were charging £23! He also mentioned an email from the homes owner who wanted the windows cleaned for £15!!! WTF!!!!

Needless to say I will be putting a quote in but fully expect NOT to get it!  :o

How can you make any money from a clean like this?  ???

If the access was OK and there wasn't anything too fiddly, it would be possible to make a fairly reasonable hourly rate at £50 - especially once the first clean is out of the way.  I would probably be looking for a bit more though. I find that as jobs get a little larger, any price per window that I have in mind starts to look a  bit silly (on the high side) so I sometimes start thinking more about how long it would take me.  Some jobs you can fly around but some just aren't like that.

EWCServices

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2011, 01:28:02 am »
£20 an hr up nawrth is pretty reasonable imo if it can be done in most weathers and to be honest those who mock this (imo)have less than 2 yrs experience trad they get some expensive equipment and reckon their the bees knees done this done that been there blah blah instead of any REAL window cleaner worth their salt who knows the score and hasnt picked up window cleaning from a brochure,the internet or a forum lol.

oh and btw i used to be one of those doleys noone has the balls to admit,because there was a time when window cleaning was beneath people and yes i was unemployed during the last Thatcher enduced recession and am proud to admit i went out to earn a bob or two when times were hard and jobs were scarce like now but before w*nkers thought up city and guilds to be a window cleaner or health n safety or how much i spent on emporers clothes to be better than anyone!

and p.s im going wfp because it is safer and slightly quicker but i will always know where i came from and realise noone is beneath me except my customer looking up to me on me ladder ;-)
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christopher b

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Re: Pricing gone mad
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2011, 02:10:19 am »
£20 an hr up nawrth is pretty reasonable imo if it can be done in most weathers and to be honest those who mock this (imo)have less than 2 yrs experience trad they get some expensive equipment and reckon their the bees knees done this done that been there blah blah instead of any REAL window cleaner worth their salt who knows the score and hasnt picked up window cleaning from a brochure,the internet or a forum lol.

oh and btw i used to be one of those doleys noone has the balls to admit,because there was a time when window cleaning was beneath people and yes i was unemployed during the last Thatcher enduced recession and am proud to admit i went out to earn a bob or two when times were hard and jobs were scarce like now but before w*nkers thought up city and guilds to be a window cleaner or health n safety or how much i spent on emporers clothes to be better than anyone!

and p.s im going wfp because it is safer and slightly quicker but i will always know where i came from and realise noone is beneath me except my customer looking up to me on me ladder ;-)

Yea right on, been there on my arse scribing on each fortnight after loosing my first business until I god totally p***d off and started up, now I have two branches repairers and windows.
on learning trad I just got on with it, didn't touch a coustomers windows for 6 month. just did own and family time and time again over and over. week ends cleaning the same dam windows until they were spot on first time every time.
as for costing up north yes they can squeak when they walk so you got to be a little low on some and make up on others. I ain't rich and don't drive some flash car or vans for that matter but what the hell my family are cared for !
O and I do were embroidered work gear and look real posh at times but I don't think I'm better than anyone yet some window cleaners look down there noses at me when i am in my roughs. Hummm
I never worry if someone costs me a custy by doing there semi for £5 a pop, they only get £5 of work and soon the frames are growing spuds and I usualy get the call to pop around and sort the mess out or to fix the now leaking bay roof due to bodge it and scarper walking on the thing. thinking about it most of my window work has come to me this way!