Stu
with respect your wrong. they do a great job. and its all about market forces. My point is that which I was trying to explain to derek that its the marketing part of design any great site has it built in, that's something that these guys don't know about.
These are people as well. the guy i uses was from the far east and work in a call centre as a system admin. he was highly educated and lost his job in 08 when the **** hit the fan. he ended up working in a flower shop to make money to keep his home.
How many people have paid top money for a site and got something that was average. As I said these guys can if you want clone anything for you.
Link exchange is unbelievable. hundreds of sites for just a few quid. and they can space them out so you don't get marked down by google. Do you have any local guy that will do that for you?

These guys have University Degrees so they are far from monkeys as you say. they are just unfortunate to live in counties with poor opportunities for themselves.
Some that i have used live in places that have electricity outages on a daily basis, with dial up internet speeds. but this does not stop them.
Sorry if it sounds like i having a go, i not just want to explain that all is not what it looks like sometimes.
With The greatest Respect
Ian Harper