[Len Gribble]

Ant got the foggiest

[Steve Chapman]

 

And there was me getting all excited   :

[Neil Williams]

For that to happen they would have to have the job in their name and subsequently get paid for it, then they pay you a percentage.
Yeh, I can see that working well not

[M.Acorn]

The way my wife ran was get the customer to pay the cleaner directly,then the customer also pays an agency fee,and signs a contract saying they won`t approach the cleaner directly,the cleaner also signs a contract saying they won`t work for the customer directly

[fitz2kleen]

Thats the part that bothers me,  I was told some years ago that if the workers solely work for you then

they now have to be employed but if they work for several people then they can be used as

subcontractors,  i wonder if this is still the case or as Ian has stated just getting them to sign a contract

saying they are self employed is enough to satisfy the Revenue that alls above board. Cant see the

problem myself as long as IS know they are working and paying tax.

Regards
Steve

we discussed this with our accountant steve and if you have them working for you on a self employed basis they have to provide their UTR number to prove that they are legally 'self employed'

[ianharper]

Guys

I can tell you that the social has no probelm with the selfemployed stuff as i had a few that where working for me and signing without me knowing. when they got caught i just sent copy of contact in and that was that. then after that all i they had to do was produce work returns from me under £30 a week. that amount covers most office jobs for labour.

as has been said part of that contact is that they use their own materials. but that does not stop you help out if you know what i mean standards depends of this, no one want dirty cloths used in their kitchens

franchise will cost you about £20k in legal fees and you will need two business running to prove the system works.

have a look at car valeting jobs at the job centre

Respect

Ian Harper

[Steve Chapman]

Ian,

Theres a difference between Social and Inland Revenue,  You might be able to prove its all legit with them,  but The IR could say you shouldnt be operating that way in the first place and make you change.

Its that part of it I want to get straight so as not to make life too complicated for myself,

If theres a certain criteria ( for using self employed workers ) to be met and you can prove your complying with it then I cant see a problem, its when you start telling porkies it may come back to haunt you, ( mixing me metaphors a bit there  )

How do agencies operate that supply temporay workers, are they employed by the agency or do they operate on a self employed basis ?



Regards
Steve

[ryan mca]

Steve

You could sub contract the work to a cleaner for each contract who then takes on employees to clean
the contracts they would need to be insured, You invoice for them them and charge licence fee, factoring
and invoicing to take your cut eg global cleaning.