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Mike Halliday

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google searches and videos
« on: November 28, 2010, 01:54:28 pm »
any web expert know how to get my videos to show on google searches?

when i type in 'Beverley carpet cleaning' there are videos from Beverly hills...... California

 its even that they don't spell Beverley correctly :-\ :-\
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

garry22

Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2010, 02:18:07 pm »
mike,

This is one of the frustrating things with google.com and our google.co.uk  I'm convinced that video gets better weighting in the US results. I've got a carpet cleaning birmingham one on the first page in the USA but it's only on about page 6 here.

However...

If you type in "Hull and Beverley carpet cleaning" in google.co.uk, you've got both slots.

This is not the complete answer but obviously the title and tags have to pretty much an exact match.

Re title the existing one, say "carpet cleaning hull".

Re-edit your video but use a different file name and slightly different running length (avoids duplicates) then title this one "carpet cleaning Beverly". Upload under this new title.

I hope this works,

Garry

wynne jones

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physical location hosting servers
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2010, 03:26:17 pm »
Sorry this should have been a post on Mike's thread and I can't delete it

Garry

Maybe the weighting is only because YT is hosted in the US, you would get the same result if your website was hosted in the US.

As this is something you can't do anything about you have to do all the other things you would do until this compensated for the weighting.

Recent changes mean this will be less of an issue anyway soon, if you get my drift. So I wouldn't spend a lot of time and energy on it.



 
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

garry22

Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2010, 05:13:42 pm »
I'm not talking specifically about YouTube. I was using video in general as an example.

I mean the difference between the US search results and the UK ones. Obviously this varies according to competition but it is far easier to get a video onto the first page of the US results than the UK ones. It's as though Google keeps a "slot" open for video on every results page. They also prefer fresh videos to older ones.

If I am working on a US site (I don't mean the really big stuff like mortgage, forex, health care, viagra etc) I can normally expect to get a video well ranked. If I'm doing a UK site, I cannot. Given the choice, I'd rather work on US sites anyday.

ianharper

Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2010, 05:17:53 pm »
Mike

its the town name that causing the problem.

you will have to other keywords like this one of mine

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=safe+carpet+cleaning+for+babies&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=vw&fp=a9e938379f07d4dc

bottom of the page.

now look when i put a town name in

http://www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=safe+carpet+cleaning+for+babies+colchester&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=a9e938379f07d4dc

You need to find sites for video content and upload them. its no good just on one site.

BTW I am still in testing with this all finding out what works so if you get any luck yourself please let me know.

Good luck

Respect

Ian

wynne jones

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 05:41:50 pm »
I'm not talking specifically about YouTube. I was using video in general as an example.

I mean the difference between the US search results and the UK ones. Obviously this varies according to competition but it is far easier to get a video onto the first page of the US results than the UK ones. It's as though Google keeps a "slot" open for video on every results page. They also prefer fresh videos to older ones.

If I am working on a US site (I don't mean the really big stuff like mortgage, forex, health care, viagra etc) I can normally expect to get a video well ranked. If I'm doing a UK site, I cannot. Given the choice, I'd rather work on US sites anyday.

The fact is though Garry there are a lot of vidoes for UK carpet cleaners that have placenames the same as US yet there videos appear in the listing over US ones. Do you have videos hosted locally in the UK then?

It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Mike Halliday

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2010, 05:47:04 pm »
thanks for the advice so far.

I keep reading that google have bought youtube and having videos on your website will help its ranking, not that i need any help since their changes I'm the most prominent company on page 1 (especially as i'm the only one with any customer reviews)
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

wynne jones

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2010, 05:54:11 pm »
Mike,

You have grasped the conecpt of local and what makes you rank other than keywords. SO... from where else could you link to your video other than your website that would tell google about your location?
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

wynne jones

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2010, 08:02:04 pm »
I see you have the video on there.

You however have not reflected local in your categories that trigger a map. Wonder wheel is your friend. ;)

That's it now I've already said too much. :-X

My friend is a big LOCAL SEO expert. If you need more help I can pass on questions.  :)
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Mike Halliday

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2010, 08:10:11 pm »
Wynne i'm having a new website built at the moment which will be very video orientated,

all pages will have a video and i will have video testimonials ( from real people and companies)

it is also being optimised for I phone - Blackberry and android phone comparable

my existing website is just temp

Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

wynne jones

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2010, 08:31:46 pm »
I'm talking about your google places.

When smartphones kick in a lot of the problem you are having will go away.

citations and reviews are the key for local, which for the future is far more important than seo for websites. That's why all the people who are into SEO have fckd up big time.
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

garry22

Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2010, 08:34:56 pm »
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The fact is though Garry there are a lot of vidoes for UK carpet cleaners that have placenames the same as US yet there videos appear in the listing over US ones. Do you have videos hosted locally in the UK then?

Wynne,

The videos on this site http://correct-office-carpet-cleaning.co.uk are self hosted (all my sites are on US servers. The business about geographical server location is not really an issue at all).

Virtually all my promotional videos are syndicated through a service and to be honest, I do not know where a lot of them are. They go out to many sites. Often people post them on blogs etc so they could be anywhere. As long as there is a backlink, I don't really mind (although some scumbags use them and remove the links. I can't stop people doing it antway.

As for Youtube videos, I'm sure your friend can tell you about getting those ranked.

wynne jones

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2010, 08:39:02 pm »
Garry

Firstly for UK centric business .co.uk you should have these sites hosted in the UK, this is a weighting issue. So you are having to do more to make up for it.

It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

garry22

Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2010, 09:09:04 pm »
Don't worry about me Wynne, although I appreciate that you are trying to help.

1/ Most of my web stuff is in the US.

2/ My main cleaning site is at no1 on page one for my main money term. It's also above the 40% local contingent (as are quite a few of Doug Holloway's sites as well. An authority site is still an authority site.

One client is top of the rankings nationally in the UK, is hosted here on another server and yet is also dominating the results in the US SERPS. In our testing, server location is not a significant factor. I'm not saying you are wrong, it's just it's not a factor for us.


wynne jones

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2010, 09:17:32 pm »
Garry

Yes sorry if it sounded like I was preaching, you obviously are well clued up mate, I just mentioned it because it is one factor which could tip things for you.  ;)
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

garry22

Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2010, 09:32:47 am »
Wynne,

I think this is a forum problem.

If we were sat having a beer (or more safely, a coffee!) we would have a great discussion.

It's very easy for a discussion to appear to be a big barney. Looking through this thread, I could probably agree or totally disagree with everything you have said. It's all about context.

I have not taken any offence and I hope you have not either.

Garry

ps; this is definitely going to be huge, particularly in local stuff. Google have pretty much said that mobile will get priority. Mike's ahead of the game.

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it is also being optimised for I phone - Blackberry and android phone comparable

derek west

Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2010, 06:51:00 pm »
ian harpers rogue trader vid is on page one, guessing if you stick it on "vimeo" it will get good ranking.

ian

you da man ;) ;D

Carpet Dawg

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2010, 07:07:47 pm »
I have found that video listing never hold thier postion in the rankings very long! Similar to hosting your content on third party sites (i.e. blog postings), its there for a few days then buggers off to page 3!  :-[

Maybe its different with local searches as theres less compition. But i found that to be the case with bigger niches.

wynne jones

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2010, 07:17:48 pm »
Tony

I know what you mean only I've notice people treat these sites as if they are any different to say their website. You wouldn't expect a website to stay No.1 if you did nothing to bolster it's position would you?
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Carpet Dawg

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Re: google searches and videos
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2010, 07:28:02 pm »
I know what you mean, getting backlinks to your youtube video pages for example. Good in thoery but you can easly knock them off the top spot if you know what your doing....

Basicly, if theres a site in the top 10 with a "hifin" i.e. ///// then its weak.
for example, "www.amazon.com/catagory/cookware/tefal_blender1524" yes, its from a powerful authority site but thats all thats holding it up there IMO.

But maybe Gary is right, google maybe will start giving tube sites more authority in the futrure. Wrong in my option as google own youtube, plusn the majority of youtube videos are total pish!