[♠Winp®oClean♠]

He's a plant, pretty obvious really. You can see the frustration- Gardiners are always one step ahead!

[darren clarke]

has any one actually seen ewan cleaning windows?

[boshravie]

I think Gardiners Pole Systems are a great company to do business with. Excellent customer service, wonderful equipment, great guy who runs the gaff and a pleasure to do business with.

Yes I double that.

[[GQC] Tim]

Well Ewan deletes them or a mod, what do you think. Not hard is it?

I answered your question didn't I? You asked me what I thought, I said "I don't think <--- it's Ewan himself that is deleting his posts." 

Anyway, I've stopped using any other company at the moment, I used to use Wintecs for the prefilters, but their paypal checkout is messed up, and for some reason the prefilters don't seem to last that long. Never have any problem with Gardiners, and they sell everything I need. A class service.

[cozy]

Well Ewan deletes them or a mod, what do you think. Not hard is it?

I answered your question didn't I? You asked me what I thought, I said "I don't think <--- it's Ewan himself that is deleting his posts." 

Must have mis-read that. Why would a mod delete the dross he types ?? It's not offensive, just made up garbage.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

The reason he deletes his posts is because he got caught out more than once! By looking at his back-posts it was clear what his agenda really was.

Plant, all the way!

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

Just had a look through your last several pages of your post winproclean, you’re definitely a Muppet if you’re not a plant you have almost 40 post praising Gardiner’s defending them etc and not a bad comment mentioned. That’s not being objective on a forum for window cleaners about a manufacturer.

If you given the opportunity, you put down Ionic’s at every opportunity, you may not like or want there equipment or just cant afford there wfp systems. But if you’re the self proclaimed expert in wfp window cleaning, as you like to make out. Then you would know and you would acknowledge what Ionic has done for the trade.

I just think you’re a little deluded and have been sucked in by one manufacturer. (Or you’re being paid)

I have nothing to hide unlike yourself (ionic tea maid) that's why a have no reason to delete anything!

Yes, I am a Gardiners fan, too right here's why-

Pole owned or used-

Excel f/glass x 2
Unger alloy
extender
Ionic ergolite
Unger carbontec
Facelift carbon
Gardiner SLX
Gardiner SL2

NOW, this is the important bit laddy- After knocking on 7 years of WFP & using &/or owning these poles (there may be more, just what springs to mind at the mo') The GARDINER SLX & SL2 Are, without doubt & by a good margin, THE BEST poles I've ever had experience of!!!

Brushes used-
Vikan oval flocked x 2
Vikan rectangular flocked
Vikan rectangular mono
Unger rectangular flocked
Salmon rectangular mono
Salmon rectangular flocked
Cleantech's own brand
Gardiner SL dual trim mono
Gardiner SL single trim mono

NOW, as above, out of all these the Gardiner brushes are without doubt, & by some margin, THE best brushes I have used!

Add to that, their customer service is second to none, the absolutely lead the field in wfp developement & innovation (just look how Ionics copied the transverse clamp & how many jumped on the modular pole wagon ) and yes, I do, with very good reason, praise them. They absolutely deserve it! Top company.

Who are you then & why do you always delete your posts when you know it's starting to expose you? :

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I agree with a few of your comments winproclean, buts that difference between me and you.

I’m can be objective and see both the good and bad points about equipment. All manufacturers have both good and not so good points.

Your not up to date, you’re trading on old equipment and past experience things have moved on from your list and experience. For example Ionic did change there pole and I agree with you, I also think it was because of the Gardiner’s pole, Ionic had little choice you could say the same for Facelift. But that’s normal in business the manufacturers are keeping up, and your blinkered.

You’re becoming an old timer, maybe the first with a wfp system. LOL

Not blinkered at all, I use the best, full stop!   The truth is, Gardiners or no worse than any other example when it comes to the odd mistake, bad batch of some product etc. so it's not an issue to anyone else bar you Things move on, you're right & I move with them.

I'm not up to date? SL2, SLX (which I ditched a facelift carbon for) with superlite brushes yeah, right :

So, have you tried all the latest poles by all the suppliers?

What can you actually compare in real life experience?

You've had all my cards, so are you now going to reveal yourself? experience, equipment etc? Or just do your usual & evade answers with some stupid spin to try & make yourself look clever? :

[Moderator David@stives]

The best brushes without doubt are the new flocked vikans, all my staff fight over any new vikan brush I buy, I am a huge alex fan and I know he won't thank me for saying but as soon as I bring home a gardeners brush my staff do there best to lose them.

Alex does without doubt make the best poles, always at the cutting edge, I have still got the mk1 slx even though my staff give it extreme abuse. I have upgraded all my poles to gardeners, my staff won't use anything else

[jouk45]

first of all, yes david, vikan is king of all brushes  second superlite beats anything for lightness and stiffness, great pole nothing beats it, downfall, it is modular, next best, has to be the sl-x fantastic pole for everyday use, but because of wear n tear, and the expense to replace one,  i use my harris pole for domestic work, to me this is the best pole in the world, sad or what  hey, but it makes me loads of money, stop arguing guys, its just cleaning glass lol

[Clive McDonald]

When Alex was on this forum his knowledge was way above the rest of us.His advice was the considered and the best.He would take time out to think through the almost any problem presented.

Thats how he got peoples respect, and thanks.How he managed to stay out of the rows and name calling for as long as he did is a miracle.The only person he seemed to wind up was the forum owner, and this was because he brilliantly launched new products on here and it cost him nothing.His pole became best in class and best seller in it's class on the day it was launched.

Other manutacturers take out ads and attend expensive trade shows and still get sluggish sales.

The only way to stop him from his competitors view point was to send in a plant.

[cozy]

Now what was the name of that guy that isn't really a window cleaner ??  erm........erm............. give me a hand here guys.

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

I think we can safely agree that Ewan has been exposed!

[Paul Coleman]

Now what was the name of that guy that isn't really a window cleaner ??  erm........erm............. give me a hand here guys.

Triffid?
That's a plant.

[Llaaww]

I think Gardiners Pole Systems are a great company to do business with. Excellent customer service, wonderful equipment, great guy who runs the gaff and a pleasure to do business with.

Yes I double that.

me too

[cozy]

When Alex was on this forum his knowledge was way above the rest of us.His advice was the considered and the best.He would take time out to think through the almost any problem presented.

Thats how he got peoples respect, and thanks.How he managed to stay out of the rows and name calling for as long as he did is a miracle.The only person he seemed to wind up was the forum owner, and this was because he brilliantly launched new products on here and it cost him nothing.His pole became best in class and best seller in it's class on the day it was launched.

Other manutacturers take out ads and attend expensive trade shows and still get sluggish sales.

The only way to stop him from his competitors view point was to send in a plant.

Perish the thought Gardiner’s used plants, LOL

What do you want tangible proof?

That would be interesting Ewan. Proof of you actually being a window cleaner. No anecdotes of your work. No breakdowns or kit problems. No dodgey anoying custies. No web site. No advice about fixing kit. Just Amway drivel about business theory that you read in those Amway sef help books they made you buy.
If I were you, I'd report to admin about your posts being deleted. That's not nice. :

[♠Winp®oClean♠]

The best brushes without doubt are the new flocked vikans, all my staff fight over any new vikan brush I buy, I am a huge alex fan and I know he won't thank me for saying but as soon as I bring home a gardeners brush my staff do there best to lose them.

Alex does without doubt make the best poles, always at the cutting edge, I have still got the mk1 slx even though my staff give it extreme abuse. I have upgraded all my poles to gardeners, my staff won't use anything else

Have you got a link to these Dave? When you say new, do you mean the re-worked, lighter ones?

[Dave Willis]

Pure Freedom had an interesting looking brush in their stores - looked almost the same as the black Gardiners dual trim but felt a bit stiffer. Don't know how much it was or what it was like on the glass but the jets looked a bit wide apart for me.

[Perfect Windows]

I take this back - posted then realised I shouldn't have within a second or two, so best left unsaid.

Vin

[Moderator David@stives]

Here it is the 25cm

Its the Bees Knees