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james roffey

safe or clean!
« on: September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 pm »
Have you ever thought, i cant be bothered using a prespray that may work,  and be safe on this wool carpet, i am going to hit it with something i know will work and neutralise it with the extraction.
I know i have used Powerburst on wool many times, if i am honest its because i dont want to have to re do the carpet if i use something "safe" I still use M Power, and the prochem wool products and sometimes Ultimate master but when you see that trashed carpet i just want to start mixing some hot powerburst.
Am i slipping into bad habits?    :-[

derek west

Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2010, 09:14:20 pm »
nope.
your becoming confident in your abilities. just double check before you go for it.

elliott cleaning

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2010, 09:17:21 pm »
No your not.  At the end of the day your client wants a clean carpet & that is what you have to give them.
All this business about damaging wool is blown out of proportion.  Ok, if you cleaned the darn thing week in week out with an aggresive product for wool, it might show sufferance - but a one off or once a year treatment won't reduce the lifespan of the carpet

Simon Moat

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2010, 09:21:57 pm »
Hi James,

When you've just gone for it how many times have you regretted your actions?

There's your answer.

Simon.

Steve. Taylor

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2010, 09:33:52 pm »
James classic example today cleaned a wool carpet in clean condition regular customer.

Method pureclean prespray warm water rinse BUT if it was a trashed wool carpet power burst all the way acid rinse. GO WITH WHAT YOU KNOW TO GET THE RESULT
Steve T       All the gear but no idea!
www.leatherrepairsouthampton.co.uk

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2010, 09:43:00 pm »
Ideally you would use a wool safe pre spray cleaner and then if not satisfactory you could go higher up the scale.

Shaun

wynne jones

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2010, 10:04:26 pm »
I've got wool carpet samples where I sprayed powerburst and just left in the sun to dry on. Just left them months. Nothing diferent.

There will always be one but this is where if you are not sure play safe comes in. Better to reclean than pay out £1000s

Some offerings from suppliers are really only good for clean carpets. ;D

 
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Griffus

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2010, 10:12:31 pm »
Ideally you would use a wool safe pre spray cleaner and then if not satisfactory you could go higher up the scale.

Shaun

Agree with Shaun, it's a right pain but hit the worst bit first, check results and if no joy then have a chat with custy and explain that you need to up the ante. They'll always tell you to go for it.

I have a couple of wools to schedule in. One especially is covered in kiddies paint, whilst there surveying the easel was out with nothing but the carpet to catch the drips (big big drips). Can't exactly say I'm looking forward to the job!!


james roffey

Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2010, 11:25:11 pm »
Can i ask if anyone has had an adverse reaction from using a high PH prespray such as powerburst on wool.
I never have but only been going 18 months, with the combined years of experience on here it would be interesting to find out if anyone has had a call back using Powerburst and f and f rinse on wool.

wynne jones

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2010, 11:40:24 pm »
I've got wool carpet samples where I sprayed powerburst and just left in the sun to dry on. Just left them months. Nothing diferent.


It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

John Kelly

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2010, 07:52:02 am »
I have had to rectify many a carpet where browning has been the result of either over wetting or using too high a ph. This is confirmed by the use of a ph test. Wetting the affected carpet with distilled water then applying the test strip. Nearly everone had been cleaned using high ph. I would say the majority due to operator error rather than the chemical, however there are guys out there using the likes of Star Drops and TFR to clean carpets.

Derek_Walker

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 01:38:16 pm »
I find a lot of the safe cleaning solutions will work on the grubbiest of carpets, so rarely find the need to use a very high ph product.

David_Annable

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2010, 02:13:12 pm »
Hi

Would you use TFR neat or dilutted. :D

Dave
NCCA, Woolsafe, IICRC Leather Cleaning Technician

M.Acorn

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2010, 04:19:10 pm »
Could have done with it on a job i did today,place had supposedly been cleaned by a company using a dry system,loads of marks,and stains,loads of piling,used Multi pro,the Ultra pac,and still not happy,they agy were aware that it might be a replacement job though
What goes around comes around

Carpet Dawg

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2010, 06:25:30 pm »
Funny that! I had a job yestarday that was cleaned by a "dry cleaner" a couple of months ago and looked like it had never been cleaned in 5 years! Came up good when i was done with it tho.

wynne jones

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2010, 08:19:41 pm »
The EOT Knockout Challenge.

In the red corner

Strong chemicals, knowhow and a truckmount.

In the blue corner

Little knowledge, p1ss weak ecochem, p1ss weak portie.

I know which one my moneys on. ;D
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

M.Acorn

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2010, 08:04:24 pm »
Well i got the news back after the minger i did,turns out that now they are dry,they look fine,and won`t need replacing,more brownie points
What goes around comes around

wynne jones

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2010, 09:04:27 pm »
nice one
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2010, 09:53:39 pm »
What about experienced operator with poor chem and light weight porty against inexperience with TM buffer and loads of chem?

Experience wins IMO.

Shaun

wynne jones

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Re: safe or clean!
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2010, 12:12:39 am »
Yes my money would be on them too. I think however the less experienced (quite rightly) will not push it on the chem front and they would also have less flushing capacity.

Safe AND Clean AND Quick would be my motto. :)
It's not expensive, you just can't afford it.