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ianharper

Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2010, 08:55:24 am »
James

what spotters are you using?


james roffey

Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2010, 09:41:42 am »
On the job yesterday, my own spotter that i got from Nick at solutions so it's not that, I agree with Joe, many things can cause foaming issues, but the amount i have been getting where i have to stop several times to empty tank add more defoamer, and still it is making enough foam to affect vacs just doing one lounge :o i would  think is highly abnormal and something is very wrong somewhere.

Air getting in is my first guess, so i have stripped the old seal that had in fact creased so may have been the cause, i am going to put some flexible mastic on it then hope that will fix it, it has also been stood on the kitchen full of water with newspaper underneath to see if the tank has a leak, i will check the seals as suggested too.

I am also going to call the engineer at cleansmart to discuss and will raise the possible diagnosis's suggested on here.

 

james roffey

Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2010, 09:59:59 am »
Have spoken to cleansmart a lovely helpful girl called Sarah, they contacted Mat who is on holiday 8) sorry Mat

I am going to wait until they send a new seal and replace, Mat seemed to think that this was a residue problem from previous job, a possibility but no more likely than an airleak until this i had no idea that air getting in could cause this problem, cheers guys

CleanerCarpets

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Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2010, 10:47:39 am »
no probs, good luck with it

Doug Holloway

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Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2010, 03:13:10 pm »
Jim

Are you using liquid or powdered defoamer?

I have found both Nemesis and Ultrapac to be high foaming, try using Prochem pureclean.

Cheers

doug

james roffey

Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2010, 06:48:32 pm »
i have been using prochems pwdered defoamer mixing it with water and sucking up the vac pipe, will take alook at pureclean, trouble is i have enaough chemicals to keep going for years without buying any more :P

james roffey

Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2010, 03:40:14 pm »
The new seal/gasket for my Airflex arrrived this morning as promised from cleansmart, it's different from the one that was on it, before it had a piece of foam stuck to the underside of the lid, the new seal is a piece of rubber that stretches around the edge of the circular lid.
The trouble is i could not fit the lid back on with the stainless steel bracket that the old design slotted under, the rubber seal is a lot thicker so i have had to remove this bracket to get it on so all that will hold it on will be the vacuum.

Is the rubber seal standard now, and if so what about the bracket ???

clinton

Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2010, 04:06:57 pm »
Might have had two jobs in a row james that the client used 1001 or simmilar,did a job last week and heard the familiar sound going up the pipes,and that meant checking the machine every min ::)

ianharper

Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2010, 09:05:49 pm »
James

I little trick with foam is put some in a waste bucket empty some dirty water out then put this back in the top of the dirty tank

do two or three times a do that two ot three time and that will kill all foam in tank

then you should be ok to star again

Doug Holloway

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Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2010, 11:06:12 am »
Jim

Prochem Pureclean is the microsplitter chemical, sodium tripolyphosphate and is in my view a must.

It's effective, very low foaming and is reasonably eco friendly, particularly as you are not transporting water!

Cheers

Doug

james roffey

Re: Foaming problem
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2010, 04:41:12 pm »
Problems arose from chemicals used by customers, which caused the problems i encountered, after talking to Mat this morning and Sarah last week it has now been resolved i just hope i have managed to rinse the machine and hoses completely.

My thanks to all at Cleansmart who responded promptly, and were very helpful.