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james roffey

Glides again!
« on: August 03, 2010, 08:31:37 pm »
I have had the glide on my wand for a couple of weeks now and still undecided,  what i want to ask is what carpets does it work best on and which carpets should i use my other wand without the glide, i did a tufted wool carpet today and did not use my glided wand it dried very quick, i was also told that on low profile carpet i would be better off not using a glide the thing is its these carpets the wand clamps on to the most.
Carpet cleaning is easier with the glide absolutely no doubt about it, but i just wanted your experiences using them, apart from Derek i am officially banning him from this discussion  ::)  "if only" ;)

I can only assume he enjoys his daily workout with his wand ;D

Mike Halliday

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 08:51:58 pm »
I never take my glide off and use it on all carpets.

Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Joe H

Re: Glides again!
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2010, 09:12:52 pm »
Same as Mike, glide on all the time.

james roffey

Re: Glides again!
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2010, 10:00:42 pm »
I did a low profile carpet last week that i also cleaned last year, that carpet was definately wetter this time round ???

mark_roberts

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2010, 10:02:32 pm »
IMO glides work better on TMs.  I wouldnt use a glide with a 2x3 stage portable as it just dosent seem to have the power to recover the water.

MArk

Mark_Jubb

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2010, 10:29:14 pm »
Bought a wand a while ago that came with a glide. took it off after a couple of weeks and never put it back on.
I would tend to agree with Mark, that they are more suited to TM's rather than 2 x 3 stage Lambs.
If there isn't enough time to do the job right,  how do we find the time to go back and do it again when the customer is not happy ?   Do it right the 1st Time.
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peter maybury

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 12:15:08 am »
I keep both on the van, I do not like taking the glides on and off all the time but silicone them on. Any extra suction that they create would be lost if they became loose or had any leaks. When I first started using a glide I did notice that a lot of regular jobs took longer with the glide. I tend to put more emphasis on agitating the prespray now than before using a glide. There are still a lot of cases when I will bring in an un-glided wand. It is not only the carpet type but also the soil conditions that decide the wand.

Peter Maybury
www.carpetcleanercardiff.com

Jim_77

Re: Glides again!
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 01:25:39 am »
I haven't found any situation where a glide is a disadvantage.

I've used a glide on 1.5" and 2" wands, with both standard and high airflow portables, and also with my truckmount.  In all cases it makes the wand a lot easier to operate.  In no cases does it leave the carpet wetter.  In no cases has it resulted in failure to extract soil.

There's no reason why a glide cannot be used with a portable - all it does is maximise the airflow potential of the setup being used.

In my opinion, any disappointing results with a glide are 100% down to the user.  Sealing the glide to the wand is essential, otherwise vacuum leaks will work against you.  Otherwise, it's down to poor wand technique and/or the inability to set up the extraction machinery with the proper flow/vacuum ratio ;)

In my time I've seen much more bad wand technique than good.  Once you get your head around the science of what's happening where the wand meets the carpet, you've got it sorted :)

Joe H

Re: Glides again!
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 04:44:13 am »
I dont seal my glide.
I dont remove it except for cleaning the wand slot out.
I use it with my 3 vac Scorpion and my Prowler
I dont see any difference between them - both leaving the carpets dry enough for my satisfaction, and more importantly the customers.

and James has a 3 vac machine and not a two.

elliott cleaning

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2010, 07:08:00 pm »
Don't think this thread needs any more discussion.    Jim Neal has said it all absolutely correct 8)

justin brown

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 07:18:31 pm »
glide on every job for me, would not be with out it :)
i am here to learn and appreciate any help

benny d

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2010, 09:13:59 pm »
Likewise.
I use a TM and the TM killed by back, and had to have a back operation in 2008.
Without the glide I wouldnt be able to do this job.
"If i'm not in action, I'm in traction"
Voted 397th best looking carpet cleaner in West Sussex 2015. Up 10 from last year...

mark_roberts

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2010, 10:47:44 pm »
Alright then Jim educate us mere mortals in the correct procedure of using a wand??

I still think they dont work as well on portables.  I was using it with a Ninja with the vacs in series so it created suck more than airflow Im lead to believe.

Mark

Jim_77

Re: Glides again!
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 10:51:09 pm »
Joe, you must be lucky and have a wand & glide that are a very snug fit, none that I've ever had have fitted straight on!  They always need some trimming down with a stanley knife and silicone to seal.

frans, stop it :)

Mark, what I mean is the glide doesn't reduce performance of a portable in any way, it's impossible!  It simply gets the best out of what's there.  I'm talking about a slotted glide here though, maybe it's different with the holed version ???

Carpet Dawg

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2010, 11:01:38 pm »
In my opinion, any disappointing results with a glide are 100% down to the user.  Sealing the glide to the wand is essential, otherwise vacuum leaks will work against you.  Otherwise, it's down to poor wand technique and/or the inability to set up the extraction machinery with the proper flow/vacuum ratio ;)


what does this mean Jim? explain please

ianharper

Re: Glides again!
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 08:57:19 am »
guys

aren't glides made for "air flow" and not for vac type

this might be your foaming problem by having air flow at the end of your wand your aggregate the air and detergent come from your prespay and rinse water on carpet as it goes up the hose . just like when you put foam in a bath.

james roffey

Re: Glides again!
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2010, 09:32:05 am »
That was something i had considred, airflow is good for making bubbles/foam in the bath so!

Simon@arenaclean

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Re: Glides again!
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2010, 08:22:21 pm »
guys

aren't glides made for "air flow" and not for vac type

this might be your foaming problem by having air flow at the end of your wand your aggregate the air and detergent come from your prespay and rinse water on carpet as it goes up the hose . just like when you put foam in a bath.

Would not have thought so. I use the same machine/wand/glide and chemicals as James has used. I don't discount your reasoning however, but based on my experience it has never happened to me.

Jim_77

Re: Glides again!
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2010, 11:37:35 pm »

what does this mean Jim? explain please
It's just my opinion..... but many extraction machines, portable or truckmount, have the ability to pump much more water than they can recover without leaving the carpet too wet.

Simply turning the pump down a bit and going a bit slower with the wand will get the job done just as well but with much less moisture left behind.  It just takes a little bit longer, which is something that not all carpet cleaners have the patience for :)