[Window Washers]

with fans it goes everywhere

No it doesnt.

Cant you hold a pole still or something? What twaddle.

With a normal fan jet you'll have two spray bands each about 4" wide, depending on how far from the glass you are.

If you rinse on or with just one end of the brush on and the other off you'll have a far far finer spray of water hitting the glass, it is because of this that rinsing with fans is superior to rinsing with pencils.

I have used both, I do better with pencil jets, and when rinsing on pencil jets won hands down, rinsing off there is no comparison fans are messy no twaddle just a fact of life imo

[LQQK]

Theyre messy in the hands of someone who isnt competent admittedly.   


Never had any complaints so far.

[Window Washers]

a few guys said always rinse off!!im gonna leave brush on/high flow  tommorrow and see what happens.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................CLEAN WINDOWS HOPEFULLY!!!!


my head is constantly weighing everything up but usually when i finally make up my mind its the right decision after much deliberation!!!

thanks lads!!


dazmond

Daz, if you do that you'll be starting a thread tomorrow titled 'Thanks to Albert Steptoe, he knows what he's talking about'

Shall I start it now and you can just comment on it tomorrow?   

and hopefully this poor guy dont listen, as I can see in three weeks a post i'm losing customer, wheres that steptoe geeza Arold!!!!!!!

[LQQK]

That explains it, youve used fans and lost custys as you wern't up to using them.

Like I said you have to be competent. 

[mci services]

thats just your opinion window washers high flow pencil or fan does the same job although i find fans quicker and always brush on

[Window Washers]

thats just your opinion window washers high flow pencil or fan does the same job although i find fans quicker and always brush on

of cause it is only my opinion, I know how to use both, I prefer pencil jets.

Steptoe I am not lowering myself to you  both should you want some pencil trainign I will gladly show you how to do it correctly and at speed, fans imo are slow on most work I have trailed both and this is what I found. I guess it is a case of each to there own. 

[LQQK]

You're already lower WW if you're using pencils 

[Window Washers]

You're already lower WW if you're using pencils 

    and I love it 

[Dave Willis]

Dazmond, first clean spotting is the norm, you'll find ways to reduce it, you will never eliminate it. You will never be perfect either. Many think they are but it doesn't happen.
What you will find is the point where you know you can get away with it, the point where a customer won't notice the faults - you always will see something wrong on every pane if you look for it.

[Window Washers]

Dazmond, first clean spotting is the norm, you'll find ways to reduce it, you will never eliminate it. You will never be perfect either. Many think they are but it doesn't happen.
What you will find is the point where you know you can get away with it, the point where a customer won't notice the faults - you always will see something wrong on every pane if you look for it.

Dave, whilst I can agree with you a bit, if you can find fault on all work your doing, you need to look at how your doing it fella, I am shocked sometimes at just how good water fed pole is, with no flaws in the work at all, not every time granded but on the most part yes.

[Dave Willis]

All I can say is that my standards are far higher than yours. Either that or your vision must be impared. There is no way on gods earth you will get perfection on a first clean. Dazmond is quickly realising this and learning fast.

[dazmond]

ive also cleaned a lot of first cleans the last few weeks that have come up absolutely spotless!

its just the odd few windows here and there that make me feel uneasy as i am the window cleaner who hasnt done his job properly!!!! : : :

im used to getting windows bang on first time  trad!different ball game with wfp!!!

[Dave Willis]

You'll get better, just got to work out the problem areas yourself. Try different brushes and varying techniques then just when you think you've got the hang of it try a minging commercial job. 

[Dave Willis]

Like I said, some think they are perfect. Sad really  :

[Window Washers]

Like I said, some think they are perfect. Sad really  :

I'm not perfect nor did I say I was am pretty close though to be honest 

[cat9921]

All I can say is that my standards are far higher than yours. Either that or your vision must be impared. There is no way on gods earth you will get perfection on a first clean. Dazmond is quickly realising this and learning fast.

Dave are you saying that WFP cannot clean a window perfect or is it just on first cleans  : I only say that because I can get a perfect finish with WFP  ( not on first cleans )

I am not saying if you went round and looked at all my work you will not find the odd mark or 2 because you will and lets face it what trad cleaner can say they never leave an odd scuff mark or two  :

WFP is not perfect but you can get most windows clean to a good standard even yours i'll bet 

Adders

[Dave Willis]

First clean Spotting ....................................... remember  :

God this forum is full of numpties!