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Sapphire Window Cleaning

  • Posts: 2942
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2010, 09:18:58 am »
I use sorbo glide, I only use 5ml per bucket. this helps out with the glide know end.
Sorbo glide is around £7 per bottle (475ml) but that will last a while because you dont use much.
My mix is 20ml GG4 and 5ml Sorbo glide per bucket.




Matt
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2010, 11:52:38 am »
I agree with any of the above, just stay clear of fairy. If you have to buy supermarket soap buy the cheapest own brand there is.

birdymiller

  • Posts: 682
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2010, 03:13:33 pm »
Fairy all the way for me, only tried unger out of all the specialist window cleaning liquids. In my opinion direct sunlight is our worst enemy and after 12 years at it it can give me problems but this is what microfibres are for.

chopsie

  • Posts: 1736
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2010, 06:05:56 pm »
I use sorbo glide, I only use 5ml per bucket. this helps out with the glide know end.
Sorbo glide is around £7 per bottle (475ml) but that will last a while because you dont use much.
My mix is 20ml GG4 and 5ml Sorbo glide per bucket.




Matt
how much water is in your bucket?
chopsie

andyM

  • Posts: 6100
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2010, 07:45:21 pm »
Smears in sunlight....I just give window a quick buff with the microfibre
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tacky

  • Posts: 1575
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2010, 11:16:31 pm »
untill i went wfp i always used fairy .the only time it smeared ish is when the sun dried it before i could take it off .

adixon

Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2010, 02:12:28 am »
cheap washing liquid not as thick as fairy mixed with some white vinegar wont use anythingelse when doing trad work (only bungalows, wfp rest of round)


andy

G Griffin

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Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2010, 08:02:00 am »
Right this might sound like a really stupid question but in sunlight from a certain angle I sometimes see smears.  I use fairy and change my rubber reguarly (that sounds rude) and seem to notice in this weather.  I do not think their is anything wrong with my technique and change my water regulary.

one of my customers said to me today that I left a few smears on a few of her windows and I ended up paranoid.  Is it just one of them things that the customer does not notice?

  It sounds as though you`re not breaking down the grease/dirt etc before blading off.  The washing of the window with the applicator is as important as squeegee technique.
  And this is harder in strong sunlight.  Dirt can seem baked on and the glass can get very hot. So when you apply your solution with the T-mop it can dry out quickly.
 
    Keed your applicator wet, soak/ scrub the window and blade off in sections before it dries off.
   You could also cool the glass first with a spray bottle or damp cloth.
   
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Jonathan Spencer

  • Posts: 315
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2010, 08:15:44 am »
Right this might sound like a really stupid question but in sunlight from a certain angle I sometimes see smears.  I use fairy and change my rubber reguarly (that sounds rude) and seem to notice in this weather.  I do not think their is anything wrong with my technique and change my water regulary.

one of my customers said to me today that I left a few smears on a few of her windows and I ended up paranoid.  Is it just one of them things that the customer does not notice?

  It sounds as though you`re not breaking down the grease/dirt etc before blading off.  The washing of the window with the applicator is as important as squeegee technique.
  And this is harder in strong sunlight.  Dirt can seem baked on and the glass can get very hot. So when you apply your solution with the T-mop it can dry out quickly.
 
    Keed your applicator wet, soak/ scrub the window and blade off in sections before it dries off.
   You could also cool the glass first with a spray bottle or damp cloth.
   

I do try and keep it as wet as possible.  And on patio doors and big windows I try and do it in sections.  Going to try GG3 and will just have to accept that I will be a bit slower.  I actually prefer working in overcast conditions as It is more comfortable.

bobby p

Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2010, 08:21:59 am »
i use a spray bottle thats hooked to my belt. that way its clean water everytime im putting onto the glass


in between houses wash out the applicator in my bucket and squeeze it thoroughly as dry as can be got

i  dont mix in any first cleans/0ne offs with the applicator thats used on the regular work . i keep a rough applicator for first cleans only and a soft applicator for regulars

 

G Griffin

  • Posts: 40745
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2010, 09:01:12 am »
Right this might sound like a really stupid question but in sunlight from a certain angle I sometimes see smears.  I use fairy and change my rubber reguarly (that sounds rude) and seem to notice in this weather.  I do not think their is anything wrong with my technique and change my water regulary.

one of my customers said to me today that I left a few smears on a few of her windows and I ended up paranoid.  Is it just one of them things that the customer does not notice?

  It sounds as though you`re not breaking down the grease/dirt etc before blading off.  The washing of the window with the applicator is as important as squeegee technique.
  And this is harder in strong sunlight.  Dirt can seem baked on and the glass can get very hot. So when you apply your solution with the T-mop it can dry out quickly.
 
    Keed your applicator wet, soak/ scrub the window and blade off in sections before it dries off.
   You could also cool the glass first with a spray bottle or damp cloth.
   

I do try and keep it as wet as possible.  And on patio doors and big windows I try and do it in sections.  Going to try GG3 and will just have to accept that I will be a bit slower.  I actually prefer working in overcast conditions as It is more comfortable.

  What size squeegee do you use? I find a 10" good on houses, especially in hot conditions. And as Stu-Mac says, try to get your squeegee horizontal or it in the T position, you will get less kicks.   
    GG3 can be difficult to use in hot weather if you`re used to Fairy.
    You should be ok if you wet the window enough and scrub well. A light pass with a soaking applicator may not be enough, let it soak the glass, scrub and try circular motions- that`s good for getting suds with low foaming solutions.
    Also ensure you get into the corners of the window, they are often the dirtiest part. And you could try holding the T-mop by the sleeve (not the handle), this can give you more accuracy and pressure to scrub.
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andyM

  • Posts: 6100
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2010, 12:02:16 pm »
1) In warm/sunny conditions work fast and don't give solution a chance to start drying out before you squeegee off.
2) I add a touch of white distilled vinegar in with Unger liquid and water (helps cleaning power and gives a good slip)
3) Use the biggest squeegee you are comfortable with (less turns)
4) Moisten rubber by wiping with a damp cloth before using
5) After squeegeing windows lean back check left, check right, if you do see any turn marks quickly buff with a microfibre,scrim or leather
Once you get in the swing you will be flying with confidence 
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A & J Owen Window Cleaning

  • Posts: 2192
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2010, 01:49:09 pm »
I'm quite new to window cleaning and was using fairy this week and it left white marks because it dries too quickly. Other half whose been doing it for years sorted me out with some GG4 which was fantastic. Not a streak in sight.

Does make you paranoid doesn't it :)

dazmond

  • Posts: 23650
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2010, 02:02:21 pm »
i basically use my mop dripping wet on hot sunny days and a tad more gg3.i also mop fewer windows before i squeegee to stop the windows drying out!simple!


regards

dazmond
price higher/work harder!

Gordon Saunders

  • Posts: 174
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2010, 02:33:57 pm »
when working with gg press lighter with the squeegee which will help reduce drag

oh and practice
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steveo22

  • Posts: 330
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2010, 09:07:11 am »
Regarding the smearing, is it where you have bladed or is it after detailing?

I get it after detailing when the windows are hot.

dazmond

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Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2010, 09:59:19 pm »
what do you use for detailing?i find the big blue flatweave microfibres absolutely head and shoulders above scrim!!!

ive been squeegeeing all day in the hot sun(downstairs only mind!!) and windows have come up really good!gg3 and microfibres/good rubber makes you a much better window cleaner!!! ;) ;D ;D ;D

ive been frazzled by the sun though!! ::) ::)

regards

dazmond
price higher/work harder!

steveo22

  • Posts: 330
Re: Smears in sunlight
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2010, 01:34:26 pm »
Yeah, nice smooth microfibre is the best option for me, scrim doesn't work half as good but i haven't used any of the unger of ettore ones which may be better?!