ive got a old brodex that is 22ft, the closed length is about 5ft6 i think if not bigger. Just got myself a gardiners SLX22 and its fantastic, closed length of less than 5ft and its really rigid so will get over conny roofs no problem, its so light its unbelievable. Also got a supermax40 for the big stuff and the closed length of that is just over 5ft