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richywilts

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getting commercial work
« on: April 07, 2010, 10:55:15 pm »
i know of the usual routes to gaining commercial work and im not afraid of ringing round companies and im picking up a few decent bits of work but nothing really regular,

but what sort of commercial companies do many of you tend to get work from and how do you all get in with them im thinkin of housing associations, care homes.

or what sort of companies should i be contacting to sub work from

any help would be appreciated

cheers richy
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

richywilts

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Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2010, 12:46:11 am »
didnt expect much reply as for sum reason no one likes to talk about commercial on here ??? ??? ??? ???
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 05:33:24 am »
It`s a sure sign there must be lucrative.

ivesonswc

Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 08:41:39 am »
i would not bother with commercials four years ago i built up a cleaning round made from just  commercial work i was doing tkmaxx, choice rental and loads more within six months i lost all my big customer tkmaxx ect to the bigger companys like caps cleaning the end result was i had to close the business down due to not have enough cash to cover running costs & wages.


but never mind it's taken me 4 years to get things sorted and i am now back and looking forward to cleaning some windows again  ;D residential only if i get some one ask me to do their shop window i will but trust me i won't go look for them to much hassel

gr cleaning solutions

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Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 08:48:00 am »
I am in the middle off getting a letter drafted up to send off to company's care homes when its done I will get 200 copies put them in envelope,s with a business card and post a 100 see how they go give it a month or so and post the rest it worth a try 

daz1977

Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2010, 08:52:27 am »
a lot of people dont talk about it because a lot dont do it really,  u have the likes of dave morris who do a lot,  but i would say the majority of people on here might do 1 or 2 shops but that is it,   i think a lot of commercial is crap money, ie  i think starbucks was £7 a shop as well as argos, and unless you are doing the whole high street then i dont think it would be worth the hassle

plus u got the likes of OCS and uk commercial cleaning  who are undercutting people to get the jobs,   u might notice that a lot of the sub contracting jobs that come up on here arnt in london or major cities as the shops are close wnough to make them worth while doing,  its when there is lots of traveling that you lose money

starbucks is an example, they where up for grabs a few months ago, in london there is loads  but in cornwall there is 2 in the whole of the county  and not worth the travel

Paul Coleman

Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2010, 09:53:08 am »
I do some commercial work but not a huge amount.  Several shops, a hotel, a few care homes, a couple of offices.  Most of it is subcontracted from main contractors though. My route in has been varied.  I picked a bit of it up via Yell/Yellow Pages when I had a bigger ad in there.  A bit of it came from window cleaners who I know who still do things the traditional way so weren't able to supply the service.  Some of it comes from a couple of cleaning companies.  I just happened to be in the right place at the right time (I cleaned a house next door to where he lives).  So I think much of it has come through just being around for a long time and having a trustworthy name (i.e. not going behind the contractor's back to make deals with their customers).  Some subcontract work is, by its nature, a bit tight on price but this can be made up if it's the right sort of work.  With the jobs I do for one of the cleaning companies, some of the prices are a bit grim and some are pretty good.  Therefore, rather than trying to cherry pick the best work, I take the view that the work pays fairly OK on average so I put up with the poorer work so that I can also do the better work.  Many of these are the sort of jobs I may have had trouble gaining access to just by offering a window cleaning only service.
I have at times considered starting up in general cleaning but after seeing some of the aggravation involved (as a part-time employee for a while), I decided it wasn't for me.
I didn't canvass or seek out any of the commercial jobs.  They came to me.  If I had sought them out I'm pretty sure I would have more of it.
Having a fair chunk of my income via subcontract is potentially a vulnerable position.  However, I take the view that even if one or two sources dry up, the others ought to be OK.  Also, I exchanged a lower rate in the here and now for canvassing my own, earning more, but with a delay in getting paid.  My current circumstances make this my better option for now.

AJ

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Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2010, 12:38:33 pm »
keep it simple.
target your surgerys, accountants, solictors build it up gradually using the methods you already are.
Housing associations and the like require a large turnover and loads of H&S to qualify for registration.
Also, lets say you get £25k worth of work in one go, you can also loose £25k of work in one go.
It happened to us when starting out years ago, got £25k of work off one HA , really looked after it, put a lot of time into it, had it for the 3 years then a 'reshuffle of resources' and we had 28 days notice.

Keep doing what you're doing.

TODAYS MORAL:
Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

daz1977

Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2010, 03:07:04 pm »
hi AJ

i think something like that happened to matt bateman the other month lose (i think) 38 % of his monthly work in one go

williamx

Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2010, 04:40:38 pm »
It is very easy to get commercial work, remember they are in business, so the price is always a big factor in what they look for.

Saying that you need to look at what kind of business you run, myself for example I run a business that offers quality second to none, I will not cut on the quality to make the cost of the job worthwhile.

I charge high but I am still competitive with the other cleaners out there.

The best way to get work is by word of mouth and recommendations, I network all the time, and now I am going down the franchise route my networking will increase 10 fold.

It is also important to generate an equal amount of new domestic customers as you increase you commercial clients.

I would recommend that you kept away from the big companies, the main reasons are, there is no customer loyalt, they are also very slow payers unless you know some few tricks you can use.

richywilts

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Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2010, 10:28:13 pm »
i get a bit fed up with the driving and parking all day i like to be on one site for a while thats why i like the commercial work, iv been sending loadsa letters out and usually spend one day ev few weeks contacting companies out the yellow pages, im having my website rejigged to target commercial cleaning side with search engine optimization etc il just keep on plodding on and hopefully pick up a nice one ev couple of months
Richard Wiltshire
Window Clean Direct

richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
www.windowcleandirect.co.uk
07894821844

glen parva

Re: getting commercial work
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 08:28:15 am »
the work is out there its just keeping it !!!!

it can be lost overnight

ive just got some work from an overseas company to cover local commerical
gutter cleaning for landlords in my area

it is just getting your name out there  ;)