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Blue Frog Systems

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a different approach to customer gathering
« on: February 27, 2010, 07:11:12 pm »
My wife helps out with a charity called NACCPO which helps familys with children who have cancer.

Her friend who is their fundraiser has arranged a charity football match for Stoke / Wolves 'old boys'.

Anyway, they are having a raffle with items donated from business's to raise extra funds. The smaller prizes get put into a raffle, where the larger ones are bidded on for. Companys donating get media advertising and their is about 500 tickets avalible.

I'm moving before this takes place so I'm unable to donate a full house clean as a prize to be auctioned, but would have if I was there.

Just thought it would be a good way to get your name out their a bit more if your doing a bit for a charity.

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mlscontractcleaner

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2010, 07:17:32 pm »
Normally I would say "Go for it, great idea", only it would seem to some that you'll be benefitting from kids having cancer ....... just a thought :-\
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Blue Frog Systems

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2010, 08:54:41 pm »
Normally I would say "Go for it, great idea", only it would seem to some that you'll be benefitting from kids having cancer ....... just a thought :-\

How would I be benefiting from kids having cancer ? Have you ever made a donation towards a charity ? Because that's what it is. Yes your name would be mentioned as a sponsor, but you wouldn't pitch them. Its more of a getting your name about 
Keep your thoughts to yourself. I'm not asking people to do it, just thought I would mention it as I really wish I could have done it. Had it been even a few days before I was moving I would have gone through with it and offered a complete house clean
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Ste M

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 08:57:45 pm »
great idea, i know what you mean about getting your name out there but also what a great idea about helping raise some funds, i however would offer a few more than one clean, where is the raffle being held?

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2010, 09:22:56 pm »
stoke old boys that takes me back wipers av u sold
up or r u going drive it i remember u thinking ov selling up
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Blue Frog Systems

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 09:53:20 pm »
Sold up lammy, 2 hours driving a day ontop of work doesn't appeal to me. Starting all over again and can't wait.

The charity event is in Stafford at Stafford Rangers FC in April / May time
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Ste M

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2010, 09:56:13 pm »
ok, only asking as if it was near me then i would of offered some cleaning as a prize, not just window but gutters,facias, conny roof and windows.

Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2010, 10:28:24 pm »
Sold up lammy, 2 hours driving a day ontop of work doesn't appeal to me. Starting all over again and can't wait.

The charity event is in Stafford at Stafford Rangers FC in April / May time
what u going do canvass a new round lad
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"If CALSBERG did WINDOW CLEANING
 it would be C.C.C  Probably the best WINDOW CLEANERS IN THE WORLD ..........."

mlscontractcleaner

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 04:44:53 pm »
Tosh, I have no idea what you're talking about and Window Wipers, I gave an opinion on a post of yours, much like everybody else does on every post on here. If you don't like my opinion I really couldn't give a stuff, it's still my opinion. You're obviously a very sensitive soul who need s to grow up a little; we can't all agree on everything pal ::)
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luther1

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 04:51:02 pm »
I'm cycling from Plymouth to Paris in July for Help for Heroes and offered a free clean in my local village raffle this year(typically won by someone with a mansion) so am doing my 'bit' for charity. If it was local to me then by all means i would help. :)

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 04:59:02 pm »
Tosh, I have no idea what you're talking about and Window Wipers, I gave an opinion on a post of yours, much like everybody else does on every post on here. If you don't like my opinion I really couldn't give a stuff, it's still my opinion. You're obviously a very sensitive soul who need s to grow up a little; we can't all agree on everything pal ::)

Sensative ... No. The fact that your making out I'd be making money from kids with cancer is well out of line. Infact if you read my original post again you would see that I'd be loosing money offering a full house clean for the charity to auction off for them to make money from.

Its no different to Matt Bateman sponsoring his local under 9's football team (sorry to drag your name into this Matt).

He forked out for the kit with his name on, saved the team £300 and some advertising for his business at the same time.

Its a good idea as you can read in the above posts. Next time you obviously jump in with a comment, why don't you think about the logic of it first.
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mlscontractcleaner

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2010, 07:43:34 pm »
If you read my post you'll notice that I wrote, " some will think ", not, " I think ", so I wasn't slagging your idea off at all was I!!

And sponsoring a football team isn't really the same is it, as nobody's likely to be terminally ill in a football team are they!!

You're happy with it, I may not have done it if I were in the same position, that's all, so stop whinging :'(
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Blue Frog Systems

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 06:43:40 am »
If you read my post you'll notice that I wrote, " some will think ", not, " I think ", so I wasn't slagging your idea off at all was I!!

And sponsoring a football team isn't really the same is it, as nobody's likely to be terminally ill in a football team are they!!

You're happy with it, I may not have done it if I were in the same position, that's all, so stop whinging :'(

I'm not whinging. What I don't like is your making me out to be proffiting from a charity, which I'm not. Infact this weekend I printed off 100 letters using my own paper, ink and envelopes to send to business's regarding donating something for auction / raffle. My wife does a lot more for this charity and she gets nothing back in return.


There are guys on here who clean charity shop windows and get paid for it.

Lammy and Hitman are going to clean some charity shop windows free of charge. Their aim is from a story hitman told about another window cleaner cleaning a charity shops windows for free and getting a lot of business from doing so. You didn't jump in there with your comments did you ? Or have I missed something ?
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Andy Foster

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 07:14:53 pm »
Hey John-Paul

Great idea, and as I will be here when you are sunning yourself in new climes, I will offer the clean in your place if that is OK with you (and of course mlscontractor).

Good luck matey, hope all goes well.

Regarding altruism, I sponsor an event for a local hospice and it costs me £500 for the event.
This year they raised in excess of £11k through the event and I gained a couple of grand of business through having my name associated with it.
Does that make me an evil person for accepting the work even though the charity is now many thousands better off?  I don't think so!

If there was no payback in sponsorship then no-one would do it.

If you want to donate money then do it by all means, but as soon as your name is associated with the giving of money then it becomes sponsorship and is usually done for one or more of 3 reasons;

1 - To raise the profile of your company/association
2 - To make you feel better about the amount of money you make
3 - To help with a cause that is close to your heart (although, I maintain that if this is the case then why not donate the money and be an anonymous beneficiary of the charity?)

Knowing you John-Paul, your original post was done with the best of intentions.

Andy

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: a different approach to customer gathering
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2010, 07:38:25 pm »
Andy, that's fine with me though I think mlscontractor will have something to say about it ;D

Ill get the details and email it across to you as soon as I can get them
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