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dazmond

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how long to fill your tank.......?
« on: February 03, 2010, 09:41:10 am »
im planning on getting a 400lt van mount DI ONLY system in the future.my tap water was 27tds last time i checked.how long to fill up?about an hour or so?

what about u unfortunate RO guys?im on a water meter so i think DI is the way forward for me with such low tds.

best wishes to u all

dazmond
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Mist A Bit

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Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2010, 09:46:24 am »
i fill a 1000ltr ibc tank with my 300gpd ro it takes 2days but only have to do this once a week. my tap water is 280tds so your more fortunate. If i was you i`d fill the tank straight from the tap and then pump through the di when your using your pole.

steve

rg1

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Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2010, 09:50:13 am »
Dazmond, if you are on a water meter you should consider harvesting rainwater. It has a low tds reading and only needs to be filtered in order to use it.

Rob
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Window Washers

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Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2010, 09:54:15 am »
im planning on getting a 400lt van mount DI ONLY system in the future.my tap water was 27tds last time i checked.how long to fill up?about an hour or so?

what about u unfortunate RO guys?im on a water meter so i think DI is the way forward for me with such low tds.

best wishes to u all

dazmond
my tds out of ro is 13, going in it at 470 plus, this is un boosted takes about 12 hours to fill 2000L.

How long yours will take will depend on your taps flow.

Easy way to find out, get a measuring jug time how long it takes to fill a litre (let tap run for a while first.

Then times the figure you get by 400 ;D You then have your answer  ;)
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Steve_c

Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 10:08:38 am »
Ionics 650 Lt pro6 from empty to full is roughly 6/8 hours. Water after ro is a tds reading of 000 rising to 002 at the end of the fill up.( still has resin to go) Then i do a part back wash and hold the softer in brine.

dazmond

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Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2010, 10:15:08 am »
i have nowhere to store water as i live in a one bedroom 1st floor flat!i know it will be a bit of a pain to fill up as i will have to fill tank via hose up the stairs to bathroom tap!the water pressure is very strong round here.

im thinking it will only take an hour of so every evening to fill up then ill be ready to go in the morning.

im determined to get a van and switch most of my work to wfp as i want to improve my business and be able to offer a more complete service! ;D ;D

thanks guys!

dazmond
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Window Washers

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Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 10:26:54 am »
Ionics 650 Lt pro6 from empty to full is roughly 6/8 hours. Water after ro is a tds reading of 000 rising to 002 at the end of the fill up.( still has resin to go) Then i do a part back wash and hold the softer in brine.
:o why do you do this ?
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Steve_c

Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2010, 10:27:58 am »
I still think your tds is a little high for di only.

Window Washers

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Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2010, 10:32:29 am »
I still think your tds is a little high for di only.
I would say the same but till he moves out of the flat or gets a little unit.
Di would be the option that I would recommend it will cost more in reson, I would go for twin di to cut down on the resin waste
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daz1977

Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2010, 10:34:34 am »
my water is about 35 tds and i use just a di system only, should take you about an hour or so, all depends on how much water a min will come out of your tap,   get a jug or something with lit marks on size,  put it under the tap you will fill from for 1 min and this will tell you how many lit a min, u will get and u can work out from this how long it takes to fill your tank

Steve_c

Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2010, 10:36:18 am »
Ionics 650 Lt pro6 from empty to full is roughly 6/8 hours. Water after ro is a tds reading of 000 rising to 002 at the end of the fill up.( still has resin to go) Then i do a part back wash and hold the softer in brine.
:o why do you do this ?
It prolongs the life of the softener and cuts down the time doing the back wash, before you fill your tank. The softener in good condition helps preserve the life of your Ro unit. The ro unit without calcium deposits will keep the good water going into your tank at much lower tds thus prolonging the life of your resin.

Window Washers

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Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2010, 10:41:09 am »
Ionics 650 Lt pro6 from empty to full is roughly 6/8 hours. Water after ro is a tds reading of 000 rising to 002 at the end of the fill up.( still has resin to go) Then i do a part back wash and hold the softer in brine.
:o why do you do this ?
It prolongs the life of the softener and cuts down the time doing the back wash, before you fill your tank. The softener in good condition helps preserve the life of your Ro unit. The ro unit without calcium deposits will keep the good water going into your tank at much lower tds thus prolonging the life of your resin.
so you put brine in the softner resin ? sorry I am a little confused how it would make any difference to the back washing with salt to regenerate the resin.
IAN
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Steve_c

Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2010, 11:07:30 am »
The process is this, carbon filter, sediment filter then softener filter, Ro, RoBack (water recovery) then finally colour change resin. What you have to do is back wash the softener this only  regenerates the softener. Half way through the process stop disconnect the back wash hoses this holds your water softener in brine. This is the time saver after you have been out working all day reconnect the back wash hoses then continue the back wash when all salt has gone reconnect softener to system and fill. Holding in brine helps the life of the softener then as you fill a good condition softener maintains a calcium free ro unit. The idea at ionics is to keep all your filters in tip top condition which in turns helps to make your water with the lowest possible tds. A low tds = long life for your resin.

dazmond

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Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2010, 11:32:43 am »
so some of u think 27 tds is too high for DI ONLY?sometimes its as high as 68 tds.it changes regularly here.

i think for convenience and lack of waste water DI is the way to go.i will be able to fill up at parents house sometimes as their not on a meter and only live down the road.

i really wouldnt ever consider RO at all.not with the time it takes to fill up etc! ::)
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Steve_c

Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2010, 12:17:08 pm »
What part of the UK you in mate? Do as ww said double your DI, best of luck i hope all gose well.

Window Washers

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Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2010, 12:37:39 pm »
The process is this, carbon filter, sediment filter then softener filter, Ro, RoBack (water recovery) then finally colour change resin. What you have to do is back wash the softener this only  regenerates the softener. Half way through the process stop disconnect the back wash hoses this holds your water softener in brine. This is the time saver after you have been out working all day reconnect the back wash hoses then continue the back wash when all salt has gone reconnect softener to system and fill. Holding in brine helps the life of the softener then as you fill a good condition softener maintains a calcium free ro unit. The idea at ionics is to keep all your filters in tip top condition which in turns helps to make your water with the lowest possible tds. A low tds = long life for your resin.
When you say Brine is that salty water ? if not where do you get the brine from ?

What is a Roback Steve, sorry for all the questions just interested.




And to stay on subject dazmond, if your tds goes upto 68 and you have a single resin vessal instead of 2 you will be costing yourself quite a lot extra in wasted resin and at about £70 a bag I would not want to be wasting to much of it.

Ian
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ccmids

Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2010, 12:47:34 pm »
i got van mount RO 4040 , 500ltr tank takes 3 hours to fill goes in tank at 4 tds then out hose at 000tds after its been through di .

Steve_c

Re: how long to fill your tank.......?
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2010, 12:55:00 pm »
As the water is rejected(waste) the waste water is recovered and filtered once more. So the rejection rate of water is a lot lower, with out the roback the ratio is around 60% good water to 40% waste water with roback the ratio is around 80% good water 20% waste water. The water meter on the system dose not lie, this is just one thing that helped me in choosing my set up. Ionics every time and yes brine is salt water. ;)