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Poll

Should we disqualify the

Get rid of them!!
59%
36 (59%)
Allow them to stay!
29.5%
18 (29.5%)
undecided?
11.5%
7 (11.5%)

Total Members Voted: 58

Matt Read

  • Posts: 235
Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2005, 05:01:48 pm »
This site is a big mix of different types of business people, its dominated mainly by one man bands/tradesman who prob like to offer a personal service to their customers whilst not looking for world domination,and use this as a place to sound off a bit, pick up advice and maybe just chew the fat with other's with  similar setups, amongst these are newbies who must find it invaluable to gain knowledge for free from older cc's. Then theres the fast track cleaners with staff who are looking mainly to make big money and are more interested in the marketing side of things and gimmicks to lure in more trade. I think this is where a lot of the conflict is arising, i'm one of the former but i'm sure if i had the ambition to have staff my main interest would be making money and offering a decent if not personal service and letting my staff deal with on the job stress. I think there is quite a gulf in the outlook of the two different types and we've all been guilty of not taking a step back sometimes and seeing it from the the others point of view.
Matt

Karl Wildey

  • Posts: 781
Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2005, 07:12:15 pm »
Sherlock,
Was not having a pop, just trying to explain why I think some people don't trust you. The figures quoted were to show the point to extremes.
Thing is, If you start something on this site, it can easily look like you are bragging, and that when people will ask you questions, you don't reply, then they will assume you were bull@@@ting them. Beware what you state.
I think you have a lot to offer, but you seem to have approach the site like a bul in a china shop, and that has put some noses out.

Darrenlee,
Spotting is a science, restoration a different ball game, but hope you understand my point about Sherlock.

gwrightson

  • Posts: 3617
Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2005, 09:14:37 pm »
Sherlock, Yet again I see you contradicting yourself, in your post s you appear to be handing out hints and tips, all for the price of zilch, and yet in your latest post , you are defending your right not  to reply to unanswered questions, with your defense been along the lines of Do not want to help the competion.
So what is your standing? Do you wish to help others? or are you afraid of your competitors? as you have stated, surly not as you do seem to have a very full diary, and especially as your marketing and methods  are at the fore front, so it would appear.
 On a personal note , I actually enjoy reading your posts, but i do take the majority with a pinch of salt, i tend to take notice of the more established and knowledable c.c. and the ones i know i can gain knowledge from " Yes for free"
those c.c. who usually can back up their claims, those that are trusted and have a pedigree. No disrespect to any newbies, i dare say many are as knowledgable and helpful as the gods, but repect is gained over a period of time and helpfulness.
 Sherlock stick around, i,m sure all this will come in time
   Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

ian richards

Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2005, 11:24:42 pm »

Oh...he will stick around ok, but without giving you a decent reply :D

Ian

ian richards

Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2005, 01:06:31 am »

re:   Driving Home

I see that human excrement is being delivered upon this site again :(

Ian

ian richards

Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2005, 07:46:15 am »

Now its gone!!

Obviously one of the moderators got got out the shovel and poo bag ;)

Well done

Doug Holloway

  • Posts: 3917
Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2005, 07:47:19 am »
Ian,

I have deleted that whole topic as it was obviously rubbish.

Even with a paid moderator , they are not going to be on 24 hours.

We do rely on a certain level of maturity.

Cheers,

Doug

ian richards

Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2005, 09:36:46 am »

Doug

Well done mate.

I know it's impossible to be on track with what's going on all the time.

I think when a newbie comes on and puts complete rubbish on here they should be automatically booted off.

Ian

Gavin Reardon

  • Posts: 464
Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #48 on: June 01, 2005, 11:13:40 pm »
What has happened to this site??
Gavin Reardon IICRC / NCCA

www.ace-cleaning.co.uk

ianharper

Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2005, 05:55:40 am »
ian

instead of "booting off" someone how about education? we are professionals so lets so other the way. "Booting Off" helps no one.

how about asking them questions like why they feel or do somthing a certain way? my advise would be when dealing with a problem is to quote other sorces. for example if a newbe had a tech problem how about reconmending the ncca or some other group from their referance

Respect

therapist

Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2005, 07:48:07 am »
The voice of reason Mr Harper

If one of your kids came out with similar comments how would you react ?

Initially. I'd ignore it and hope it wouldn't be repeated.    If it was I would simply state ( in a calm voice ) which, admittedly I'm blessed with, that, what they just said would be hilariously funny at school, but not in some adult company.

Usually this is greeted with laughter and no one is offended and no one falls out.

We have 4 kids from 12 - 19 and I, am more likely to embarass them, in company than they, are me.

As I'm only a guest on this forum, it's not for me to tell anyone how to behave, but try not to react too quickly, or judge someone by their appearance, or tone when you first meet.

R M



Gavin Reardon

  • Posts: 464
Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2005, 07:58:24 am »
Hello Mr Robert Melldrum

What you say is great

But you have done your fair share of stiring things up  ::)

Regards Gavin
Gavin Reardon IICRC / NCCA

www.ace-cleaning.co.uk

therapist

Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2005, 02:38:41 pm »
Not deliberately Mr Reardon I have a way of stringing words together that sometimes requires reading between the lines, or understanding of dry humour, one of the differences between Scots and most of the other residents of this little country

I've never deliberately knocked any system or product, but have occasionally attempted to inject a little balance into a one sided debate, just my nature, probably originates from being, one of 7 kids myself.

Long may you continue to prosper

 r m


Re: Clean up Cleanitup!!
« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2005, 03:34:25 pm »
therapist your replys always make sense to me. you are one of the few that are able to inject not only humerous, but also unconditional remarks without malice or intent. ron aka sherlock numero uno upholstery cleaner
listen,learn.and benefit. try. reward.and love, peace harmony.feng shui. and all that. it improves ones selling .to ones customers.reap THE HARVEST WHILST YOU CAN. and try to crush the opposition.