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blitzman

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rojak device
« on: October 27, 2009, 11:44:43 pm »
Has anyone used one of these "anti slip" mats?  Had any problems with it?   There are also more expensive versions on the market, but not sure why the price difference...

I need to get some kind of safety device, particularly for wooden decking.  Was thinking of maybe articulated oblong safety feet instead.  The only thing I worry about is wet grass, whereas the original ladder feet can dig into the grass slightly.  Anyone got any advice please?

bobby p

Re: rojak device
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2009, 07:04:58 am »
i bought some clip on ladder spikes off ebay , theyre  an easy fix

dazmond

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2009, 08:44:13 am »
ive got the rojak stopper and use it on most surfaces.40 quid i think from the windowclean centre.NEVER ON WET DECKING!!i use a trad pole where theres gravel and wet decking.its good if uv got fussy custys who dont like holes in their lawn from ur ladders ;D ;D.

est wishes dazmond
b
price higher/work harder!

Craig - CW Window Cleaning

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2009, 10:52:47 am »
Hi I have a rojak stopper and have used on wet decking and in a highly polished school hall floor, make sure you one that fits the size of the base of your ladder.
craig

matt

Re: rojak device
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2009, 03:47:19 pm »
they come in 2 or 3 sizes, get the biggest you can

Brit gas supply them to the staff when they climb ladders, good enough for them, must be fairly good

Central Window Cleaners

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2009, 03:53:02 pm »
I use ladder twins, would not be without them. I find them easier to carry with the bucket and they also take a lot of the bounce out of the ladder as you climb.

http://www.brickytool.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/953

Ian Lancaster

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2009, 04:27:48 pm »
Any ladder safety device that relies on friction (i.e. rubber mat or similar to set the ladder feet on) will be no better than a good set of rubber feet attached to the ladder.

This is because it's not the area of contact that's critical, it's the 'co-efficient of friction' between the two surfaces.  So if the feet of the ladder and the underside of the safety device are the same material, they will give the same degree of resistance to slipping.

The danger is that a separate rubber mat will give a false sense of security - if you wouldn't consider going up with just the ladder feet to protect against slipping, don't trust any sort of rubber matting either

wizard

Re: rojak device
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2009, 10:14:07 pm »
I agree with you Ian rubber is not safe on wet decking .I think spikes are beter and I also use long spikes I had made like tent pegs which I put into groung and secure with rope and also us robber sucktion on glass with rope if need be.

mark dew

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2009, 01:32:04 am »
Most of the time it is possible to get the ladder sturdy by rearranging it.
But i use a rojak once a month and find it very good for uneven hard grond like tarmac.
It is too bulky to use permanently but is a very handy bit of kit to have in the back of the van.

dazmond

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2009, 08:22:20 am »
i find the rojak is good for stopping bucket moving about in back of car when half full with water!! ;D ;D
price higher/work harder!

Mike55

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2009, 11:06:33 am »
I have a rojak and it is a very handy bit of kit to have.  Have used on wet decking also.

Tip - If you do get one drill a hole in each corner of the mat - you can then stick tent pegs thru if you have a tricky pitch on wet grass.  Have also done this in cracks in patio etc.

dazmond

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2009, 04:42:40 pm »
im sorry mike but that sounds ridiculous.as for using the rojak on wet decking .no chance!i wouldnt risk it

.too dangerous.buy a trad pole and get good with it for gravel,wet decking,wet imprinted concrete etc.

or {dare i say it}go WFP ;D ;D ;D
price higher/work harder!

TonyD

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2009, 06:32:38 pm »
Since I came very close to a fall last month I always use my trad pole now on anything even remotely risky, it's just not worth the risk at all.  WFP as soon as funds allow, can't wait, just for the huge reduction in risk. 

Mike55

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Re: rojak device
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2009, 10:31:32 am »
im sorry mike but that sounds ridiculous.as for using the rojak on wet decking .no chance!i wouldnt risk it

.too dangerous.buy a trad pole and get good with it for gravel,wet decking,wet imprinted concrete etc.

or {dare i say it}go WFP ;D ;D ;D

Hi Dazmond, I only really do this if I am up the ladder for jobs usch as clearing out guttering.  Otherwise if it's too risky it's trad pole like you say.