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Pittmonkey

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12 v pump on mains supply?
« on: August 19, 2009, 08:09:05 pm »
Just wondering if you can run a 12v shurflo pump from the mains using a 240v -12v converter. Anyone tried this. I cant think of any reason why not but just thought I'd get a bit of feedback.

For something I'm working on, so there is a reason for this.

Any help

Thanks
Wayne
'Success is buried in the garden of failure'

jeff1

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Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 08:22:00 pm »
So long as its a continuous rated convertor and the ampH is sufficient to cope then the answer is yes it can be done

Paul_Rolfe

Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 09:00:47 pm »
I thought about running a pump off the custys mains to save fuel on the van. Just plug into a socket in their garden/outhouse. But never did it as 1) I didn't have a 240v plug on the pump in the van and 2) not enough custys have power points outside.

jonnyald

Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 09:05:09 pm »
I thought about running a pump off the custys mains to save fuel on the van. Just plug into a socket in their garden/outhouse. But never did it as 1) I didn't have a 240v plug on the pump in the van and 2) not enough custys have power points outside.
bloody cheek !!

Paul_Rolfe

Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 09:17:36 pm »
I thought about running a pump off the custys mains to save fuel on the van. Just plug into a socket in their garden/outhouse. But never did it as 1) I didn't have a 240v plug on the pump in the van and 2) not enough custys have power points outside.
bloody cheek !!
Why? You'd ask for a bucket of water wouldn't you? I don't see the problem dude.

Glyn H

Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 09:22:04 pm »
Some of the replys on here absolutly amaze me.

jeff1

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Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 10:02:39 pm »
I thought about running a pump off the custys mains to save fuel on the van. Just plug into a socket in their garden/outhouse. But never did it as 1) I didn't have a 240v plug on the pump in the van and 2) not enough custys have power points outside.
Do you actually realise that is classed as theft? Were in fact taking a bucket of water without customers permission is also classed as theft?

Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2009, 10:38:32 pm »
Fresh water is simply to ensure you have a clean bucket of water because the last lot got dirty from cleaning previous houses.

Asking for electric when you have an alternative is amateurish.

If you havent got an alternative then you should have.


Time taken to run ANOTHER lead out of your van to the nearest electric point would cost many many times more than the money you saved yourself by not using your own electric. One unit of electric is about 8p. False economy.

RK Cleaning Services

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Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2009, 10:44:03 pm »
Gippo

Pittmonkey

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Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2009, 10:53:05 pm »
Well I wasn't planning on plugging in to custy supply.  ??? Cant for the life of me think how this would be a good idea but Hey!! each to their own.

Been doing a bit of searching and think I may have found a solution.

@ Jeff thought I'd get a sensible reply from you as always. Any pointers for a invertor/convertor. Maplins I presume.
'Success is buried in the garden of failure'

Paul_Rolfe

Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2009, 10:29:47 am »
If you ask and get permision then why not?
The thing is the practical side. You'd have to have a way of powering your pump from the van battery AND the mains. I don't know how this would work but use some sort of switch I suppose.
Then there is the question of the saving. Surely you must save diesel as the engine doesn't have to work as hard to charge the second battery.
What about doing away with the battery alltogether and just use the mains?
Like I say if you have permision then you're not doing anything wrong.
You do it with their water don't you?

LWC

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Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2009, 10:59:41 am »
This is a wind up yeh?

Your telling me youd go to the effort of reeling out an extrension cable, plugging it in and then go back to van. By the time youve done all that you coulda done the house.

I run my pump off the van battery and everyone gasps when you say that but its never been a problem.

Anyway, if you were really that desperate, could you not get a charger for the van, have it wired in to battery and then run the plug out to customers house?

Paul_Rolfe

Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2009, 12:43:11 pm »
It's Pittmonkeys idea, not mine! I was just trying to help.  ::)

jeff1

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Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2009, 02:44:49 pm »
Well I wasn't planning on plugging in to custy supply.  ??? Cant for the life of me think how this would be a good idea but Hey!! each to their own.

Been doing a bit of searching and think I may have found a solution.

@ Jeff thought I'd get a sensible reply from you as always. Any pointers for a invertor/convertor. Maplins I presume.

Yep as usual maplins  ;D make sure its rated at over 8 amps as I think thats what most pumps are?
Have you tried running your pump of a car battery charger?? (just a thought  ;) )

stevieg

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Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2009, 04:01:33 pm »
L W C .when you say you run the pump from the van battery can you expand a little.I e do you literally have the pump wired straight to the Battery?  Also do you travel a lot to keep the van charged ok or do you charge from a charger regularly.  Also do you use the pump each and every day ?

Paul_Rolfe

Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2009, 04:07:18 pm »
Well I wasn't planning on plugging in to custy supply.
Sorry I didn't see this bit.

Pittmonkey

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Re: 12 v pump on mains supply?
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2009, 06:05:22 pm »
L W C .when you say you run the pump from the van battery can you expand a little.I e do you literally have the pump wired straight to the Battery?  Also do you travel a lot to keep the van charged ok or do you charge from a charger regularly.  Also do you use the pump each and every day ?

There ar e3 ways to run the pump from the van.

1. Pump connected to a 75-100amp leisure/heavy duty battery. Then take out and put on battery charger.
2. Pump connected direct to Van battery. (OK if you are clocking the miles up)
3  Pump connected to leisure/heavy duty battery via split charger from the Vans relay

Would also recommend an in line fuse on any of the above to protect the pump. (10amp)
I personally use two leisure batteries taken out and put on charge in the evening on a rotation. Would highly recommend getting a decent charger for this method. Cheap one are not up to the mark in my experience.

Any other methods would be good to learn about.

Think the original post got misunderstood a little. Was asking about mains on pump for something completely different, but sorted now.

Thanks
'Success is buried in the garden of failure'