[ronnie paton]

if i havw sub contractors working for me whos responsibilities are the health saftey paperwork and were do i stand in regards to an accident?

[stfc]

the people working for you,,make sure you have all there docs etc

[ronnie paton]

so an absialor what docs do they need to have??

[brighouse_wc_trad]

if the customer has not asked for them, then he is ultimately responsible. if he has asked for them, then you as main contractor are responsible. however should an accident occur, the pooh will hit the fan.

the person who employed the injured would be asked for risk assessments & method statements (even if he is self employed), if he doesn't have them, then you would be asked for them, then the customer would be asked. if there are none, then you are all liable under due diligence. your insurance would not pay out and the injured party would be able to sue you all personally.

the actual h&s safety tree starts at hsaw 1974 all the way down to acops, everybody at work is encompassed. if your employing a company or person to chuck em selves off the side of a building on 2 ropes, then you need to make sure they are irata or equivalent, i think there are actual laws covering rope work and there should be minimum of 2 people on the job, a level 1 supervising a minimum level 2. google irata and they have website with all the necessary info.

[ronnie paton]

so i m the middle man, a company want work doing i find a abseiling team they give me ins and risk assesment i pass on to main company am i covered??

[brighouse_wc_trad]

the question is? am i making enough money to cover the time and effort and the risk incurred. you always have to look at worst case scenario, someone will die, what will be required to cover my arse. believe me that's how you're customer will be thinking. these days with 'no win no fee' solicitors and ambulance chasers, 'where's there's blame, there's a claim', corny but true. best off ringing irata, they are non biased and will advise you better than anyone on here. if you're not limited, remember they can come after you. even if you are limited and found negligent, they will come after you personally as a manager, thru the cicvil courts, and when i say 'they' i mean hse or victims family / solicitors