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Yes, you need a 4040 ro unit in case you expand.


100gpd is fine if you leave it on 24/7 - just store a few barrels at the weekend for any emergency. I know of a local cleaner who does this with no problems whatsoever.
You could purchase one of those plastic sheds to store your water butts in and block the light. If it's outside then any spillage or overfill is not a problem.

[Window Washers]

Yes, you need a 4040 ro unit in case you expand.


100gpd is fine if you leave it on 24/7 - just store a few barrels at the weekend for any emergency. I know of a local cleaner who does this with no problems whatsoever.
You could purchase one of those plastic sheds to store your water butts in and block the light. If it's outside then any spillage or overfill is not a problem.

Wind your neck in 

I did not mention a 4040 although this is the best option    I have three lol

[matt]

thanks again both of you, i dont know enough about it to be certain myself but i did have same thought matt that i could fill over weekend and any days off to build up a supply of spare water, am also really interested in finding out about rain water butts as have roof gutter and extension gutter.
money is tight as moving, and first baby on way in 12 weeks so probably do have to go for the 1oo gpd option , but open to all of your suggestions, thanks both.

money tight, then dont overspend

100 GPD will be fine, just produce a few 25 L barrels OR 2 rain water butts in the cellar for a emergency ( produce them on the weekend ) that 200 L will see you right if your caught short

ive got by on a 75 GPD and started the week with a 210 L rain water butt and 14 X 25 L barrels ( when i used them ) and it ran fine for years

ive since put a 400 L tank in the van ( filled to about 300 L ) and i start the week with that full and the 210 rain water butt full

you have the space in the cellar, just bung in a few space saver rain water butts and fill them for that emergency

[matt]

Easy to say it may not happen but chances are with a unit not designed for use to this degree it will fail and it will cost this guy money, he can get a unit that can produce water quicker... You must see my point on this m8, I wasnt knocking what you was saying, but I do not think a 100 gpd ro is good enough for a window cleaning business, buy that cheap and you will buy more than twice costing more money..

my point is though, he uses 250 L a day, thats what the 100 GPD puts out, so he doesnt really need much more

yes i would have 1 days water stored as a backup, he can do this in the cellar

cheap doesnt allway mean you buy twice ? ? ? he of course might find he needs more water, so he can add a 2nd 100 GPD membrane to the unit ( but thats a option he has if he needs it )

[Window Washers]

Easy to say it may not happen but chances are with a unit not designed for use to this degree it will fail and it will cost this guy money, he can get a unit that can produce water quicker... You must see my point on this m8, I wasnt knocking what you was saying, but I do not think a 100 gpd ro is good enough for a window cleaning business, buy that cheap and you will buy more than twice costing more money..

my point is though, he uses 250 L a day, thats what the 100 GPD puts out, so he doesnt really need much more
yes i would have 1 days water stored as a backup, he can do this in the cellar

cheap doesnt allway mean you buy twice ? ? ? he of course might find he needs more water, so he can add a 2nd 100 GPD membrane to the unit ( but thats a option he has if he needs it )

You Matt will know aswell as me that when you start you use a lot more water, so if the guy thinks 250 will be more like 350, adding another membrane incase is my point, the cost on these second hand is peanuts, why get a 100gpd and be at max straight away, even if money is tight, which I understand with new baby on the way, for the cost of maybe £10 more you can get an ro that does not need changing shortly after buying. that is what I mean when I say buy cheap buy twice, you have just said yourself that adding another membrane if needed ( it would cost more than buying right the first time)

The guy has 2 points of view I guess so can make his own mind up, you think your right as do I, you have a 100gpd I have a 4040, I was trying to help this guy make the right choice to save in the long run and on a budget, I hate wasting money as I guess you do, difference of opinion. Enjoy your bank holiday 


Ian

[mark dew]

if he is wheeling a trolley around all day he will soon learn how to make 250 litres go a long long way.
What i don't understand is the cellar bit? I would avoid having water there at all costs. Just on the basis that it's got nowhere to go.

You say it's a house. Have you got a back yard or garden? As the summer is here i would have my ro outside if i've got an enclosed yard, until funds allowed me to afford a cheap shed or something smaller.
Storage for the ro wouldn't need much more storage space space than a computer desk.

[matt]

Easy to say it may not happen but chances are with a unit not designed for use to this degree it will fail and it will cost this guy money, he can get a unit that can produce water quicker... You must see my point on this m8, I wasnt knocking what you was saying, but I do not think a 100 gpd ro is good enough for a window cleaning business, buy that cheap and you will buy more than twice costing more money..

my point is though, he uses 250 L a day, thats what the 100 GPD puts out, so he doesnt really need much more
yes i would have 1 days water stored as a backup, he can do this in the cellar

cheap doesnt allway mean you buy twice ? ? ? he of course might find he needs more water, so he can add a 2nd 100 GPD membrane to the unit ( but thats a option he has if he needs it )

You Matt will know aswell as me that when you start you use a lot more water, so if the guy thinks 250 will be more like 350, adding another membrane incase is my point, the cost on these second hand is peanuts, why get a 100gpd and be at max straight away, even if money is tight, which I understand with new baby on the way, for the cost of maybe £10 more you can get an ro that does not need changing shortly after buying. that is what I mean when I say buy cheap buy twice, you have just said yourself that adding another membrane


Ian

now i dont want to appear argumentative, BUT a extra 100 GPD membrane will cost more then 10 quid

the risk with second hand RO's is that the membrane and pre-filters will be knackered, i would never buy 2nd hand, unless you price into the deal the cost of new membrane and pre-filters

so i am afraid its NEW for me, then

your idea of a 300 / 450 RO is alot more money

a 200 GPD is 200 quid

300 is 280 quid

450 is a few quid more at 290 ( ish )

i agree with you if he was thinking of getting a 300, he might aswell get a 450

but the price jump from 100 upwards is more than 100 quid

when i started i used 150 L per day, its only now that i use more, as i do up and down WFP ( which now means i use 250 L a day ), he does bottom the trad way, so i guess the 250 is at the top of the usage chart ( as it stands )

[Window Washers]

there are always perfect working ro units coming up for sale second hand, I know what you mean about the filters and membranes ect but to cut the costs this is what I would do but get a higher output RO, just my preference I guess.

neither is right or wrong in what I said or Matt and yourself. Just we all do things in a different way.

[lee_dewing]

andy only read some of the posts.
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=75359.0

this is what i was just posting to someone else on here.

I probably only know a fraction of many on here but you can see my setup if useful
lee.
waltham abbey

[EZclean]

i got a twin pumped 400gpd (2x200 membranes run in series) for £230 inc delivery, i have 1x210ltr water butt  in a small cellar, it produces 75ltr/hr and before it goes to DI vessel is 1ppm.
i fill 6x25ltrs and come back about lunch, anywhere between half 11 and half 12 usually, and the butt is filled again ready to top up.