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Re: my first leather auto
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2009, 10:44:52 pm »
Someones going to dine out on this one. ::)

So when were these products released, is it very recent?

clinton

Re: my first leather auto
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2009, 10:50:44 pm »
Think someone already is ::)

Re: my first leather auto
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2009, 10:53:38 pm »
Just another brick in the wall.  ;D

Re: my first leather auto
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2009, 11:07:04 pm »
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Ben Staerck

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Re: my first leather auto
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2009, 09:25:15 am »
I thought I would just clarify what has happened here.

On some leathers, when you apply the Leather Colourant - PU, it can go slightly tacky. This is due to reactions with plasticiser, grease, oil or whatever else could be in the leather.

The original PU finish we had didn't always take this tackiness away. About 6 months ago we increased the strength of the finish so that it 100% sealed this in.

About 3 months ago we put a new additive (not from 3M), into the finish. This really toughened the finish up, making it almost impossible to remove once applied and cured. The new additive offers great scuffs and scratch resistance.

So, if you have any finish older than 6 months, I would advise replacing it. Other than that, its all good to use. All new finish is being supplied with the additive in. It also grealty improves the testure and of leather.

As for the balms, we still sell these, but we have also added leather dyes to the range. Peter, I am unsure how the balm would rub off onto peoples clothes, as once it is applied it really is colour fast. The only thing I can think of is, if it is applied to a pigmented leather, it will only soak into the exposed leather and not through the paint. So, it can require a lot of buffing if over applied.

If on aniline or pull up, if you put too much on, it will sit on the surface and not soak in (the leather can only absorb so much) so will require buffed off. It is always best to coat the leather with protection cream after.

Other additions to our range are;

1. New Glue. Once applied, this is tougher than the leather. We have tested this and if you fix a tear, and try and rip it open again, the leather rips before the tear.
2. New prep. Stronger than the old and not as smelly!
3. Degreaser, but this has been out a while now.
4. Matting agent. To kill the shine on the colours.

hope this clears things up

Mike Halliday

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Re: my first leather auto
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2009, 10:27:07 am »
so  the 900mls of matt pu finish & 800ml of gloss finish I have needs to be chucked away?

or should I still use it the colourant shows no signs of tackiness?


Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Ben Staerck

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Re: my first leather auto
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2009, 02:05:27 pm »
so  the 900mls of matt pu finish & 800ml of gloss finish I have needs to be chucked away?

Yeah, I checked your order history and it was a while ago when you ordered finish.  I'll send you out a litre of each today to replace them.

If anyone else needs finish replaced I am happy to do so, but I will need to be able to check your last order dates to make sure you do have the oldest stuff. So please, no funny business  ;D

Mike Halliday

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Re: my first leather auto
« Reply #47 on: April 25, 2009, 03:09:56 pm »
bye eck, you must had done it straight away! got the new stuff this morning

thanks

I remember you saying that if I require a matt finish I should put a coat of gloss on first to give added strength then over coat it with the matt, is this still the case with this new stuff?
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Ben Staerck

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Re: my first leather auto
« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2009, 12:11:00 pm »
No, its not really that necessary. The matt is vert strong. I would still imagine that the gloss is ever so slightly stronger is it is more pure, so if you were ever unsure about a job, it could always be worthwhile putting a coat of gloss down first.

However, just so you know, all the jobs we do in our workshop are just finished with 3 coats of either matt, satin or gloss.