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ftp

  • Posts: 4694
Varistream
« on: February 18, 2009, 04:58:38 pm »
Has anyone found a way of making their varistream kick in earlier?
Sometimes i open the valve, get a quick surge then and nothing happens for about ten seconds other times it's not so bad.

Slash

  • Posts: 1875
Re: Varistream
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 05:02:14 pm »
Turn the blue dial within the box.

ftp

  • Posts: 4694
Re: Varistream
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 05:04:16 pm »
I don't want more pressure - just faster sensing ta.

SherwoodCleaningSe

  • Posts: 2368
Re: Varistream
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 05:18:14 pm »
I open the valve for a second and then close it before I erect the pole.  It wakes the varistream up and it's ready to start pumping when I need it.  I only find I need to do this on the first window for every property I clean.  If the varistream doesn't pump for about a minuet it goes asleep and needs waking.

Simon.

Davie T

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Re: Varistream
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 06:23:57 pm »
Is it digital or not ?

ftp

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Re: Varistream
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 06:37:03 pm »
Digital

dai

  • Posts: 3503
Re: Varistream
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 06:52:31 pm »
There's nothing much you can do about it, it is pre-programmed to send out a pulse every 15 seconds or so, and it depends on where during this 15 second sequence you turn on the flow, if you turn your flow on when it has just sent a pulse, you will have to wait 14 seconds for the next one.
I think the pulse senses/ measures the amps the the pump is drawing, obviously if you have the flow turned off, the pump tries to draw more amps to overcome the pressure, when the drawn amps reach a certain level, a switch is triggered in the Varistream and turns off the pump, it will continue to send out a pulse every 15 seconds or so, once the amp demand drops, the switch is triggered again to turn it on.
Funny thing it never does this when you first turn the Varistream on, and your system's not pressurised.

macmac

Re: Varistream
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 06:58:05 pm »
Here's my settings- 100psi + 80m minibore (8mm)

Flow= 1
Pressure= C
Cut off= 6

Mine kicks in almost right away, no waiting & no surging. Although I had probs with it at first, but that was due to faulty pump, I wouldn't be without it now, It works perfect for me.

Tony

daveappleby

  • Posts: 166
Re: Varistream
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 08:46:09 pm »
I have been thinking of getting a varistream, but, I am very economical with my water and like a very light flow (just to wet the brush almost) to scrub window initially then open the inline flow valve to rinse windows off. How would a varistream cope with that? Do you guys just turn the valve on and have one flow rate??


ftp

  • Posts: 4694
Re: Varistream
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 09:27:13 pm »
Just throttle the water back on a valve on your pole hose, the varistream will control the pump accordingly.

alanwilson

  • Posts: 1885
Re: Varistream
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2009, 12:42:37 am »
Here's my settings- 100psi + 80m minibore (8mm)

Flow= 1
Pressure= C
Cut off= 6

Mine kicks in almost right away, no waiting & no surging. Although I had probs with it at first, but that was due to faulty pump, I wouldn't be without it now, It works perfect for me.

Tony


here's mine

flow = 6/7

pressure = max (f or g, whatever the max is)

Cut off = max again.

loadsa water
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

macmac

Re: Varistream
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2009, 08:38:45 pm »
Here's my settings- 100psi + 80m minibore (8mm)

Flow= 1
Pressure= C
Cut off= 6

Mine kicks in almost right away, no waiting & no surging. Although I had probs with it at first, but that was due to faulty pump, I wouldn't be without it now, It works perfect for me.

Tony


here's mine

flow = 6/7

pressure = max (f or g, whatever the max is)

Cut off = max again.

loadsa water


I think a lot will depend on everybodys personal set up as to which settings work best. the varistream setting will alter depending on what the pump has to push water through to get to the brush (resistance)

Tony

AuRavelling79

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Re: Varistream
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2009, 08:45:27 pm »
I've got the older dial type varistream and that needs a bit of time to "wake up" after the initial burst of pressure.

As for adjusting the flow I set it at the 1pm position for most work and reduce to the noon position for lead and georgian panes.

I also have a tap on my belt which I use as on or off but rarely I will use it to reduce the flow if I have one window I want to reduce the pressure on.
It's a game of three halves!

macmac

Re: Varistream
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2009, 08:47:04 pm »
There's nothing much you can do about it, it is pre-programmed to send out a pulse every 15 seconds or so, and it depends on where during this 15 second sequence you turn on the flow, if you turn your flow on when it has just sent a pulse, you will have to wait 14 seconds for the next one.
I think the pulse senses/ measures the amps the the pump is drawing, obviously if you have the flow turned off, the pump tries to draw more amps to overcome the pressure, when the drawn amps reach a certain level, a switch is triggered in the Varistream and turns off the pump, it will continue to send out a pulse every 15 seconds or so, once the amp demand drops, the switch is triggered again to turn it on.
Funny thing it never does this when you first turn the Varistream on, and your system's not pressurised.

This is not true of my digi' varistream Dai, done some tests today & fiddled with it. Got it to cut out & restart almost immediately & reliably too. There is no 15 second pulse on mine.
 ;)
Tony

macmac

Re: Varistream
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2009, 08:49:42 pm »
Here's my settings- 100psi + 80m minibore (8mm)

Flow= 1
Pressure= C
Cut off= 6

Mine kicks in almost right away, no waiting & no surging. Although I had probs with it at first, but that was due to faulty pump, I wouldn't be without it now, It works perfect for me.

Tony


here's mine

flow = 6/7

pressure = max (f or g, whatever the max is)

Cut off = max again.

loadsa water


I think a lot will depend on everybodys personal set up as to which settings work best. the varistream setting will alter depending on what the pump has to push water through to get to the brush (resistance)

Tony

So, to conclude, we may have the same flow rate at the brush, just different settings to get us there. ;)

Tony

dai

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Re: Varistream
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2009, 09:44:58 pm »
There's nothing much you can do about it, it is pre-programmed to send out a pulse every 15 seconds or so, and it depends on where during this 15 second sequence you turn on the flow, if you turn your flow on when it has just sent a pulse, you will have to wait 14 seconds for the next one.
I think the pulse senses/ measures the amps the the pump is drawing, obviously if you have the flow turned off, the pump tries to draw more amps to overcome the pressure, when the drawn amps reach a certain level, a switch is triggered in the Varistream and turns off the pump, it will continue to send out a pulse every 15 seconds or so, once the amp demand drops, the switch is triggered again to turn it on.
Funny thing it never does this when you first turn the Varistream on, and your system's not pressurised.

This is not true of my digi' varistream Dai, done some tests today & fiddled with it. Got it to cut out & restart almost immediately & reliably too. There is no 15 second pulse on mine.
 ;)
Tony

Was it pressurised? It maybe less than 15 seconds, I will test mine tomorrow.

I am having a problem getting my light to start flashing to adjust it, am I right in thinking that you keep both buttons pressed to start the adjusment settings?

macmac

Re: Varistream
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2009, 10:07:27 pm »
There's nothing much you can do about it, it is pre-programmed to send out a pulse every 15 seconds or so, and it depends on where during this 15 second sequence you turn on the flow, if you turn your flow on when it has just sent a pulse, you will have to wait 14 seconds for the next one.
I think the pulse senses/ measures the amps the the pump is drawing, obviously if you have the flow turned off, the pump tries to draw more amps to overcome the pressure, when the drawn amps reach a certain level, a switch is triggered in the Varistream and turns off the pump, it will continue to send out a pulse every 15 seconds or so, once the amp demand drops, the switch is triggered again to turn it on.
Funny thing it never does this when you first turn the Varistream on, and your system's not pressurised.

This is not true of my digi' varistream Dai, done some tests today & fiddled with it. Got it to cut out & restart almost immediately & reliably too. There is no 15 second pulse on mine.
 ;)
Tony

Was it pressurised? It maybe less than 15 seconds, I will test mine tomorrow.

I am having a problem getting my light to start flashing to adjust it, am I right in thinking that you keep both buttons pressed to start the adjusment settings?

This is for the digital one

Keep both buttons pressed for 3 (ish) seconds, this will bring the settings up. THEN press both again for 3 seconds & they will start flashing for you to adjust. You then have to switch off the unit to keep that setting.
Note:- As both pressure (letters) AND cut off (numbers) are in the same menu, you have to do the above twice if you want to adjust both settings.

Tony

alanwilson

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Re: Varistream
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2009, 12:34:56 am »
macmac

I checked my flow rate today - 3.6ltr/min

check yours and see what it is - could be the same.
I've never been to bed with an ugly bird but I've woken up with loads!

karygate

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Re: Varistream
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2009, 06:41:26 am »
i have the old type . first window of the day takes about a minute to get pressure stable then its great all day,cutting out and starting almost as quick as i turn my tap on hose,but i only use 50m of microbore.
gary