[Oakley Windows]

matt these elements look good, to keep the water warm
http://www.hydrogenappliances.com/hofooler.html

http://www.hydrogenappliances.com/hotwater.html ?

[G & M]

In the summer time would it be possible to get enough heat using a couple of proper solar panels on roof of shed and heating ibc tank and then transferring water to van? Or would be too expensive to set up?

[NWH]

Hot water from the tap can in no way be compared to a hot water system,the way your doing it the temp is dropping by the second and will cool down even more when going through all hoses etc.To have proper hot water you need to heat it on demand,luke warm water for window cleaning is in no way the same as hot.

[NWH]

The kind of temp you`ll get from doing it that way will be less than hoses absorbing heat in the summer and making the water seem warm.

[LWC]

I see what your saying NWH, but in what way am i doing it any different to the ionics guys who just circulate the water back around and back into the tank for half an hour in the morning??

[Nathanael Jones]

The kind of temp you`ll get from doing it that way will be less than hoses absorbing heat in the summer and making the water seem warm.

Depends how hot the water is going in, and how well insulated the tank is. Even if it is cooler, its still better than cold!

[LWC]

Im going to get one of those new TDS meters with Temp gauges on, ill tell you what temp it is in the tank.

When i put it in the other day, its the heat id be happy with habing a bath in lol!

[Nathanael Jones]

The water coming out of my heater is often uncomfortably hot,.. but the time it gets through 100mtrs hose its a pleasant "bath" type heat.
In the winter though the water can be a lot cooler since I'm paranoid about cracking glass (not happened to me yet!) and I still find 20 degrees Celcius a huge difference from using cold & sometimes near frozen water.

[kenaltobelli]

anybody seen the element on the andrews water treatment website £250 or so i think
looks something like a washer  part

[NWH]

Putting 40-60 degree water back in a 600ltr tank won`t make any difference luke warm maybe but in no way hot water window cleaning,you know when your using hot water cos the brush is steaming from hot water and the windows are misting up from the heat.To see the difference from cold you have to have constant hot water going through the hose at a constant temp at least 40 degrees.

[NWH]

The main idea of a frost stat is to circulate water so there`s no freezing in the pump or pipes it keeps everything above freezing it won`t heat the water enough to say your using hot water to clean windows.

[LWC]

Putting 40-60 degree water back in a 600ltr tank won`t make any difference luke warm maybe but in no way hot water window cleaning,you know when your using hot water cos the brush is steaming from hot water and the windows are misting up from the heat.To see the difference from cold you have to have constant hot water going through the hose at a constant temp at least 40 degrees.

Yes i see that bud, but like i say the Ionics guy circulates hot around the system in the morning for say 30 mins n thats it...so there isnt much diff in my opinion.

If your using it on demand yeh i see what your saying, but im pretty much doing what they do.

[NWH]

Putting water back into the tank is not done to heat it as it would take hours and hours to do it,my heater gets upto about 80 degrees before it`s ready to supply hot water to the reel.I then set the heater to give water of about 40 degrees in the cold weather like we had last week.

[LWC]

Putting water back into the tank is not done to heat it as it would take hours and hours to do it,my heater gets upto about 80 degrees before it`s ready to supply hot water to the reel.I then set the heater to give water of about 40 degrees in the cold weather like we had last week.

I dont know how it works, and im not saying ive got a hot system, far from it, but its a nice try, the water was steaming and the windows were getting condensation on them, got to say something?

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I have an immersion in my ibc to heat the water before I transfer it. Works really well, and for a surprisingly long time as well even on a sub zero day like today. I had ice on the brush stock and angle adapter but the water flowed all day long. Plus hotter water just obliterates birds mess.

Simon.

Simon,

What immersion heater do you use? Do you have a link?

I have this in m IBC storage tank and heat the water for 3-4 hours before I transfer it.

www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9271652&fh_view_size=6&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=immersion&fh_eds=ß&fh_refview=search&ts=1231715758345&isSearch=true

Simon

[NWH]

All i`m saying is it dosen`t really matter what the waters like when you put it in the tank,it`s such a vast amount it will cool very very quickly by the minute even if insulated.With a heater hot water is constantly being put through the hose at the same temp.

[LWC]

All i`m saying is it dosen`t really matter what the waters like when you put it in the tank,it`s such a vast amount it will cool very very quickly by the minute even if insulated.With a heater hot water is constantly being put through the hose at the same temp.

Yeh sure mate, im gonna get a temo gauge tommorow, will tell ya what it is in tank and at brush

and i know it wont be as good as proper hot system, but will do for now...

Egged me on to sort out hot system though!!