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krave

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scrim help
« on: December 01, 2008, 08:50:11 pm »
Hey people, I have today bought a ten pack of unger pre washed scrims. These feel really rigid and glossy, i have heard about washing them or boiling them, and was hopeing to get me some info on what to do. Obviously want them to be as affective as possible.

Thanks in advance for any info  ;D

LWC

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2008, 08:53:41 pm »
Put em on boil wash in washing machine, or boil em on hob.

Need a couple of goes before theyre nice and crisp.

krave

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 08:56:05 pm »
hey there mate, how long should i leave them on the hob for? and should i let them dry in between cycles, or just cool down? And if i use the washing machine, just put it on the higest setting? Sorry....

thanks

darragh windows

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2008, 09:00:18 pm »
Hey people, I have today bought a ten pack of unger pre washed scrims. These feel really rigid and glossy, i have heard about washing them or boiling them, and was hopeing to get me some info on what to do. Obviously want them to be as affective as possible.

Thanks in advance for any info ;D



i usually use them for anything at first mopping sills etc they dont take to long to break in cause there prewashed sometimes the washing machine can fluff them up always better to hand wash them and avoid tumble dryer
jamie

LWC

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 09:08:15 pm »
Let them dry naturally, avoid tumble driers as mentioned, they seem to just move the soap around the window instead of moping up lol

Re: scrim help
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 09:25:01 pm »
Boil them up in nothing but water and leave them to dry out naturally. Don't ever use washing powder/detergent etc.

Break them in as suggested above. Don't ever bother washing them again. A scrim works best just damp to the touch. I only ever used 2 scrims at a time at the most. Once they got too wet I rang them out. To do this take hold of 2 opposing corner, fold it over into a triangle shape, hold it out straight and then flick it over a few times till you have a long thin shape., fold it in half once then once again then wring it out hard. Unfold it until you have the long thin shape then crack it like a whip. Find one corner and crack it out and there you have it. A scrim ready to go again. :)

To clean it just dunk it into clean water and repeat as above.

Works a treat.

Andrew

LWC

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2008, 09:33:51 pm »
Do you never wash them again andrew?

I put mine in the washing machine and boil them around once a week. Stick em on radiotor and they dry nice and crisp. They dry in the shape of the radiotor lol!

I never use em damp, i only find they work when dry for detailing around edges.

Re: scrim help
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2008, 09:43:07 pm »
Do you never wash them again andrew?


NOPE... honestly no need to.

I used to faff about washing them out and only ever using them dry and had loads of them. The "Jedi master" of window cleaning.. a certain Mr Ian Lancaster who "allegedly" remembers the proper way to use scrims posted what I have above on A.N. other forum many many moons ago  when I was a whippersnapper so I did what was suggested and never looked back :)

The trick is to get the scrim JUST DAMP. It does take a bit of practice to be able to get it right but once you have life becomes a lot easier.

Andrew

henryroberts

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2008, 09:49:23 pm »
bang them in the washing machine a couple of times on the hghest temp,if they still feel a bit rigid use them to mop up cills for a few weeks till they feel right...ps it would of been far easier buying 10 unger microfibre cloths alot better 99% of lads will tell u

Re: scrim help
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2008, 10:20:28 pm »
About 2 years ago I was sitting in a tyre fitting outfits waiting room and the window cleaner came in.

I have seen this old timer here and there for years but to watch him work was a lesson.

His scrim was BLACK. He trad poled all the high inside windows in no time at all and used his scruffy looking rag of a scrim on the small panes and the glass door. When he had finished and gone I couldn't help inspecting his work especially the scrimmed stuff. The sun was very bright and shining right onto the windows. Try as I might I couldn't find one smear or mark where he had scrimmed. I looked from every angle and not mark or smear anywhere  :)

Andrew


Re: scrim help
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2008, 10:23:56 pm »
Unfold it until you have the long thin shape then crack it like a whip.

Don't do that! its not necessary and all it does is make the edges fray.

Yeah you are right. Bad choice of words on my part. I did it just to unwind the scrim coz when you have wrung it out the proper way it's an easy way to untangle it.  Just whip it gently   :-[

Andrew

Re: scrim help
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2008, 10:26:06 pm »
lol  ;D

This is more like it  ;D

I do miss the discussions about the proper way to clean windows like what we used to do  ;D

Andrew

LWC

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2008, 10:35:35 pm »
The "proper" way hehehe

I tell you what, i love my pole system, but sometimes when i get the trad stuff out i do think i miss it.

Mind you my pocket aint missing the trad days...hehe...actually it is, wfp is costing me a fortune!!  ;D

Back in the day when all i needed was a bottle o fairy liquid every couple of weeks.

LWC

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2008, 10:43:43 pm »
Although i couldnt reccomend squeegee off any more now, think its fantasic.

Dont need alot of it, i dont do a great deal of trad any more, probably around 3 - 4 times a week and ive had a 5l bottle for donkeys now.

Re: scrim help
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2008, 10:53:13 pm »
Although i couldnt reccomend squeegee off any more now, think its fantasic.

Dont need alot of it, i dont do a great deal of trad any more, probably around 3 - 4 times a week and ive had a 5l bottle for donkeys now.

HERE HERE.  It's great stuff and when used with pure water for trad work it amazing the results you get. If you are really good with a squeegee you can forget about detailing most of the time this way.

LOL Stan... dont go WFP whatever you do. Using that amount of fairy you will have bubble going all over the windows and walls for weeks before you get rid of the fairy  :D

I remember a job we took over from a trad cleaner after we went WFP and I swear it was like one of those cartoons you see with bubbles pouring out of a washing machine on the first clean. I think he used neat fairy...honestly  :)


Andrew

LWC

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2008, 11:00:49 pm »
My wife often comments "you need a bit of soap" just to wind me up  ;D

LWC

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2008, 11:04:43 pm »
"You cant clean windows with just water"

Col

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Re: scrim help
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2008, 11:37:12 pm »
Chuck them out when they get white and full of holes.
When i started a new scrim was like a sheet of cardboard and took days to wear in,now these pre washed ones are almost pliable without the need of boiling and the hubble and bubble.
Somehere in my van is scrim that looks like Rab C Nesbits vest but i will have to use it at some point because it is clean and i have been too lazy to wash my good ones.
Depending on the job i will always carry at least one clean scrim because a dirty scrim will not polish up a dirty job.
Chuck them in the wash on a low heat with no detergent or softener and hang to dry.
Sorted.

pjulk

Re: scrim help
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2008, 01:22:40 am »
Use the new scrim as a wet cloth for a few weeks.

Bung them in the washing machine each week on a hot wash not detergent.

And to get them working well as andrew has said give them a good twist, fold in half and another twist and ring it hard.
The grab one corner let it drop and give it a good crack.
You won't fray the edges i have been doing it like this and my edges never fray.
If done properly you will see dry patches through the scrim no this is perfect for working with.