[geefree]

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Why dont you give him a hand ? Or maybe you are . . . . . . chicken ? You talk the talk , but can you walk the walk ?

You really do talk utter nonsense,... i have been in sales years ... and each company i have worked for,  use canvassers,

it does not matter what they canvass, they reach there targets any way they can.... if they put on any old customer, its job done for them..... then we.... the people they have done it for.... are left to sort out the good and the bad... and its mainly bad.... in fact at most, the good can work out as little as 30%....,

thats not to say some dont do better than others.....( in this game..).... but why should it be any different to any other type of canvassing?..... i aint having a go at them , as they are fast talking people, who work hard to get to the figures they need to stay in a job... like i said .. fair play to them...

but you cant beat going out there and getting your own customers.

That was my point.

as for your comments regarding chicken, well all i can say is , i cant imagine why you would think of such an absurd statement, perhaps you should have left that comment in the playground.

i hope you get my opinion this time, if not , please let me know and i will try and spell it in your language..

Oh by the way, i have done my share of canvassing over the years , so i have walked the walk..(as you call it)... and its hard work , so i dont knock people quite as easily as you appear to,

but as i said,  its better to get your own.

Seems to be a lot of new people on here lately.

[mr merson]

[q

 

Why dont you give him a hand ? Or maybe you are . . . . . . chicken ? You talk the talk , but can you walk the walk ?

You really do talk utter nonsense,... i have been in sales years ... and each company i haveworked for use canvassers,

it does not matter what they canvass, they reach there targets any way they can.... if they put any old customer, its job done for them..... then we.... the people they have done it,  for are left to sort out the good and the bad... and its mainly bad.... in fact at most, tghe good can work out as little as 30%....

thats not to say some dont do better than others in this game...... but why should it be any different to any other type of canvassing?..... i aint having a go at them as they are fast talking people, who work hard to get to the figures they need to stay in a job... like i said .. fair play to them...

but you cant beat going out there and getting your own customers.

That was my point.

as for your comments regarding chicken, well all i can say is , i cant imagine why you would think of such an absurd statement, perhaps you should have left that comment in the playground.

i hope you get my opinion this time, if not , please let me know and i will try and spell it in your language..

Oh by the way, i have done my share of canvassing over the years , so i have walked the walk..(as you call it)... and its hard work so i dont knock people quite as easily as you appear to,

but as i said its better to get your own.

Seems to be a lot of new people on here lately.

You are what we call in the trade . . . . . . All mouth and no trousrers !  You keep quoting how good you were in sales , yet you are asking advice from strangers how to clean windows !   Yes I am new as you call it , but when I suggested you help a fellow forum member you went all mental and defensive !  I can help you if you ask , but you dont half talk a lot of crepes !  They are by the way a tasty snack 

[mr merson]

And yes my grammer is poor ! 

[geefree]

You have lost me... i simply have not a clue what you are talking about, i really dont  :

i have canvassed my own round , and built it myself....... as for strangers, and how to clean windows..... when.. where...

this is a valuable forum to me and many others, when i first started i asked lots and lots of questions on here,

and since i built my round with the advice from these guys, i thought i would post that fact... that its much , much better.

now ... why did you ask me if i wanted your help... your posts baffle me.

God help new starters with comments like yours.

[geefree]

Sorry Poleman.

i just wanted to help.

Good luck mate

[dryasabone]

Gazzasp8
you say there seems to be a lot of new people on here at the moment !
Its called a FORUM not a closed shop.
Open your mind !!

[mr merson]

Just trying to help ! No more no less !

[mr merson]

By the way , we have one mouth and two ears for a reason !

[poleman]

Chaps dont turn a Informative post into mindless arguing  :

Andy

[Rounddevelopers]

"There were very few problems, but when they did arise Steve dealt with them quickly and fairly, "

Taken from the website

Says it all really, why advertise you have problems, is it because there WILL be problems so you are forewarned ?

hi there Steve from Rounddevelopers. Im pretty tired of hearing all the negativity  from people that have never used my company. To clarify ive never worked for anyone before,  doorknockers or anyone else out there.
 I was a window cleaner that ran a successful company who decided after selling due to not being able to find reliable staff, that setting rounds up for people suited my personality better.
I put this particular quote on my site to show that canvassing is not an exact science. I obviously could of said i was the all singing pied piper of window cleaning and there are never any problems that arise. The company in question lost about £30.00 worth of monthly work out of £400 due to the customer changing their mind and not bad canvassing due to trying to acheive a sale. The cancelled jobs were replaced the next time i worked for this company without a quibble. There is a great difference from bad canvassing and human nature, where the customer changes their mind, rather than being sold a load of nonsense. I stick to what you my customer is looking for and if a cancelled job does arise its replaced, simple as that. Reading your previous posts Dave i know you are not going to use my service as you like to buy your rounds established. Thats fair enough, but why tar everyone with the same brush that operates in my field. We are not all the same, looking to make a quick buck out of you. I offer a decent, honourable service and feel slightly offended you want to quote my website without even having a conversation with me.There are people out there that take pride in what they do and all i can see on this forum is that we are the villains without you even having used my service.
yoy have my website address, why not contact me for a frank discussion.       

[cleanandshine]

Right for 1 id never use Doorknockers again used them about 2 years ago ,,they got me some work and all was well,,,

they then went back to the same area and knocked on the same doors for another company i dont find this far after id payed them ..

i then used a company called www.rounddevelopers.co.uk i found steve very pro ,never had any trouble with his work and will carry on useing him ,,

there are so many members on here who are willing to put people down without trying them ,

if anyone on here wants to talk about this company on  what they are like please email me on info@cleanandshinemk.co.uk

[sageorgeta]

I previously used doorknockers as well to my detriment....
I have had a good conversation with Steve from rounddevelopers in the past couple of weeks and this guy is much more professional in his attitude towards his customers.I have him sorted for september/october so will post the results when it happens.
I dont understand how anyone can slag a service or company off that they have not used previously...

[poleman]

Ok, well that is good to hear feed back, was the canvess done for trad or WFP reason I ask is that it can be harder to get more work (WFP) because of access issues, type of windows, flat roofs, ete as this was the heart of the problem with doorknockers as the sucess rate was a lot lower of trad window cleaner, and the words of paul bass...my team was demoralised!

Andy

PS Please dont arguing, lets keep it Informative, as I am sure you might have a need for this service one day! 

[niceandclean]

Ok, well that is good to hear feed back, was the canvess done for trad or WFP reason I ask is that it can be harder to get more work (WFP) because of access issues, type of windows, flat roofs, ete as this was the heart of the problem with doorknockers as the sucess rate was a lot lower of trad window cleaner, and the words of paul bass...my team was demoralised!

Andy 

Are saying its harder to get more work WFP than Trad?

[poleman]

Yes I am, regarding access issues, being able to park outside, type of windows, flaky frames, anodised frames ete

Andy     

[niceandclean]

Oh right! It depends on the type of houses you want canvassed.
When i first started using the company, i stipulated areas and types of houses and what i would like as a minimum price. So say it was £20.00 plus that was what i got, but i did get the few that was less, but the work was in the same area, so why turn it away. I get one offs as well, and sometimes lead into other work, again money is money.  They know about access ect, if it was difficult they would charge a few quid more, ie lots of bins down the side of a house, windows over conservatories, car ports ect ect. The thing is you have to trail the company that you are going to use, i did and found the one that was best for me. You have to have a little give and take, work together ect. I can say that out of all the work i have had canvassed, i have not lost one customer, only due to them moving out of the area. I have accepted all work that was canvassed as well. I like some of the difficult houses as they are good money earners as nobody else wants to do them. I had canvassed 6 new jobs on a new development a few months back, where some of the house is wfp van mount, some is back pack, and some is trad, all on same house. I dont care as its all money and it all has to be pre arranged a few days before.
So what im saying is lay down the rules that you want, prices, areas ect, get a couple of companies on a trail and see who is best for you!

[geefree]

Gazzasp8
you say there seems to be a lot of new people on here at the moment !
Its called a FORUM not a closed shop.
Open your mind !!

oh dear,you have missed the point too.. i tried to help poleman... got silly reply  , its called helping someone who posted... to be called a chicken, and the rest is not really anything to do with anything posted ....

i opened my mind and tried to be constructive...... and yes its a forum and people want to help...

but its the first time i have been pulled to bits for giving an opinion.. and so i say again , lots of new people on here ... thats a good thing, what we surely dont need is someone coming on to start arguments. by the way ... how does pulling someone to bits , class as trying to help, no more no less.

thats my lot on this subject. lol.....

[mr merson]

Gazzasp8
you say there seems to be a lot of new people on here at the moment !
Its called a FORUM not a closed shop.
Open your mind !!

oh dear,you have missed the point too.. i tried to help poleman... got silly reply  , its called helping someone who posted... to be called a chicken, and the rest is not really anything to do with anything posted ....

i opened my mind and tried to be constructive...... and yes its a forum and people want to help...

but its the first time i have been pulled to bits for giving an opinion.. and so i say again , lots of new people on here ... thats a good thing, what we surely dont need is someone coming on to start arguments. by the way ... how does pulling someone to bits , class as trying to help, no more no less.

thats my lot on this subject. lol.....

Pint of worthingtons says you will give another post ?

[geefree]