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richardc1983

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Rug doctor advice needed!
« on: January 06, 2005, 02:31:40 am »
A friend who knows someone who works in the cleaning trade says it might be possible for him to get me a rug doctor machine for the weekend.  Basically im gonna be cleaning my 2 bedroom flat.  THeres a lot of floor space and the carpets were cleaned by a karacher puzzi 100 machine by myself about 6mnths ago.  I just found that some areas wernt cleaned as good as they could have been. I have a lot of parties at weekends and stuff gets spilt, mainly coke, tea, coffee, beer. Needing to clean em again now cos had a few mad partys over xmas/new year period and in some rooms they are looking a little dirty. Basically wat advice im looking for is:

1.What solutions can i buy in a supermarket would boost the power of the general carpet detergent?
2.Would it be possible to use vanish oxy powder dissolved first in a warm water solution (as an effective carpet cleaner) and used in the machine and then filling the machine after with fresh clean water to "rinse" the carpets clean again after the initial wash cycle?
3. How would i go about getting tea stains out of a carpet and beer stains? 
4. Is it best to do a pre wash kind of run then a rinse run finally removing all the moisture and remaining detergent in the carpet?
5. Any other advice ppl would like to give me for doin the carpets this weekend?

My msn is richardc1983@hotmail.com so if u want to add me and chat on there or just post a comment on here thats fine, any help appreciated.  Just wanna get these carpets looking nice again.


Ian Gourlay

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2005, 06:14:26 am »
You will get other CC knocking the Rug Doctor but I started out with one although the Larger Wide Track and thought it gave good results.

But it is not the machine but the person using it that acheives results.
Stain removal is a specialized field.

I have even been told  from a very experienced member of this board that if I gave you or anyone else advise on this subject and damage is done to object worked on on  I could be in pontential trouble legally.

I dont usually sound like this but carpet cleaners spend years learning about stain removal thats why some achieve high earnings per hour.

However if you pop into Home Base you will find that you can pay money and Hire a small rug doctor. you will also find a stain removal leaflet.

Also if you do a search on stain removal on internet you will find some interesting methods.

However you risk damaging your  valuable carpets.

An investment second only to your car after your house.

Also not all stains can be removed

gwrightson

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2005, 08:29:35 am »
Richard save yourself the time and trouble, chances are you will do a
inferior job, put your area you live on here and seek a local proffesional
 far better results will be acheived, for the price of of one of the parties you
 had  ;D
    geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

paul@ctcs

Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2005, 08:57:16 am »
The only answer is to contact a professional CC with professional equipment and knowledge to do it for you.
 There are probably considerable amounts of residue in the carpet from the previous clean which may cause problems.
 Nothing from a supermarket will perform like a dedicated carpet cleaning solution/detergent.
 Over wetting is a serious likelyhood with this type of machine in the hands of a novice and the use of supermarket available spotters create a high amount of foam which is bad news for extraction machines :-\

All that and i doubt you will be happy with the results

By the time you have spent money on cleaning solutions at the supermarket and performed the clean it would be far easier to and in the long run it will work out cheaper.

If you state where in the country you are I'm sure a pro from this forum can help.

Paul

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2005, 05:48:45 pm »
Hi Richard

I would go with the advice given above. Stain treatments are a different animal to carpet cleaning and great care is required. Vanish Oxy Powder (or virtually every product with the term OXY, including acne treatments) is an oxydising bleach. Forget what you see in the adverts or read on the labels, the potential for damage to your furnishings is enourmous.

My advice IF YOU MUST clean the carpets yourself is to use a good upright vacuum cleaner with a new filter bag and clean dry filters and pre vacuum your carpet much more slowly and thoroughly than you would ever dream of doing normally. Even when you've finished, vac key areas again. This should take away about 70% of the soil.

All of your cleaning solutions should have a Woolsafe Approved mark on them. You can then be sure that they will be reasonably effective and safe to use. Measure the amounts to be used accurately. More product doesn't equate to a better clean. Carry out all tests as per manufacturers recommendations. Unless stated otherwise on the label, mix up a stronger solution (about 1:10?) and fill a garden hand spray bottle. Wear rubber gloves and a mask if required. Mist this onto the more heavily soiled areas. Spray some more onto a Microfibre cloth then agitate the area just sprayed gently. If pile damage looks likely, stop agitation. You could use brushes, but this increases the risk of pile damage. Leave to stand for about 5 to 10 minutes. Use your Rug Doctor to rinse away the soil as per manufacturers instructions.

It's worth baring in mind that, collectively, in a typical home, the carpets are the most expensive things after the house and the car. For single items it's usually the 3 piece suite. With that sort of capital investment, is it really worth taking a risk by doing it yourself?

Good luck.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

richardc1983

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2005, 07:38:29 pm »
Im in leeds LS15.

Have tried to get my profile updated but it wont let me for some reason.

Apparently the rug doctor is coming on saturday, im not paying for it so its gonna be a free one so will just use solutions it comes with.

Anyway of stopping that "wet dog" smell u get after cleaning em?  Or is that natural?

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2005, 08:30:34 am »
Dont over wet carpet  Vac  as Ken has told your. You can get Odour control products, and antibactariol. Ask your friend in cleaning trade.

I still think you should take the time to go into DIY store look at rug doctors products and leaflets.

How many wet passes did you do last time.


How many dry passes.


As I said I started out in this bussiness after I had to clean out my sister in laws house after she commited suicide. The house was smoked filled, and the rug doctor from safeways in Canada was man enough for the job and I was complimented by the relator on  the result I achieved.

This was a ranch style house and much larger than your average house in UK

richardc1983

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2005, 03:49:32 pm »
Dont over wet carpet  Vac  as Ken has told your. You can get Odour control products, and antibactariol. Ask your friend in cleaning trade.

I still think you should take the time to go into DIY store look at rug doctors products and leaflets.

How many wet passes did you do last time.


How many dry passes.


As I said I started out in this bussiness after I had to clean out my sister in laws house after she commited suicide. The house was smoked filled, and the rug doctor from safeways in Canada was man enough for the job and I was complimented by the relator on  the result I achieved.

This was a ranch style house and much larger than your average house in UK

I used a karacher puzzi 100 last time to do the whole flat.  Ive since then been told they are better for spot cleaning or valeting cars etc which may be why/  THe solutions are coming with the rug doctor that i will need to use but i thought that i would clean all the carpets first then go over them once again with clean/fresh plain water to rinse them.  Just to give them a boost.  What u think?

Ken Wainwright

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2005, 04:42:04 pm »
No point Richardc

Follow the instructions with the machine. The most important part of the process, as already stated, is the pre-vaccing.

Safe and happy cleaning :)
Ken
Veni, vidi vici, Vaxi
I came, I saw, I conquered, I cleaned up!

richardc1983

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2005, 12:47:23 am »
Ive done a spring clean of my flat tonight and everything is all set for tmrw.  hoovered best i can, so its all down to the rug doctor now.

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2005, 08:05:03 am »
Let us know how you get on.

We will then invoice our consultancy fee ;D ;D ;D

richardc1983

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2005, 10:42:02 pm »
The clean went really well with all teh carpets perfectly dry by late that evening.

One thing though, i spilt beer on the carpet last night, how annoying!

Ian Gourlay

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Re: Rug doctor advice needed!
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2005, 07:25:49 am »
Well done