[Nathanael Jones]

Design feature or not,... if 1 squashes and 1 doesn't,... I know where I'd be sending my money!!!
 

[Captain Scarlet]

In my humble opinion  the Emporium feels more like a fishing pole, whereas the SL2 feels more refined and "changed" for the job. Jeff is probably the most experienced "user" of these type of modular poles and can probably get away with having a weaker but lighter pole as he is great at using them ( you should see him putting one up, its like part of his body!!! ) But for the likes of me and many other people we need something very tough so only the SL2 has that toughness for a stupid rough worker like me!!!! I just would feel like the Emporium would break if I used it alot.

But I would still be happy to own an Emporium, but would always be wanting an SL2. The Emporium is cheaper and just slightly lighter but in my books the SL2 is already light enough and that extra strength hasnt come at a compromise on weight. I dont want to sound like a SL2 fan boy!!! as that would be closed minded. I want the best tools for my work and believe that the SL2 is best for me and also the majority of people coming into the modular world.

There is already quite alot of negative feeling and prejudice towards the modular "fishing" style poles so maybe it would help if people were buying the strongest modular on the market. Do you see where Im coming from?

If I ever need another modular I may well consider an Emporium and was very impressed by it when Jeff brought it round, especially by the look of it, I even wanted to have a swap, mainly because it looked nice and had protection rings ( which the SL2 has now! ). But after thinking about it more and seeing the Emporium a few times I believe that the SL2 is the best pole for a standard user and especially somebody like Daniel ( owner of a larger cleaning company - lots of rough workers ), Luke

[Jeff Brimble]

Thats a good and fair precis of poles Luke. I remember that there was something about the Emp  you liked. From a user point I dont think there is much to distinguish between the Emp or the S2

I have recently restarted using the F16s and cannot really fault them for the price, last time I looked £250, which is half the current price of modulars. Just checked with an F16 User and he is still using his although he has bent his N0 8 section  and had to pay £70 rip off for a replacement 8 section from Stapely water gardens , he did say it was his own fault. ( didnt even know they sold fishing pole)

I dont think either of the NEW modular suppliers are quite there yet. Glyns tease sounds interesting.

[Alex Gardiner]

Thats a good and fair precis of poles Luke. I remember that there was something about the Emp  you liked. From a user point I dont think there is much to distinguish between the Emp or the S2

I have recently restarted using the F16s and cannot really fault them for the price, last time I looked £250, which is half the current price of modulars. Just checked with an F16 User and he is still using his although he has bent his N0 8 section  and had to pay £70 rip off for a replacement 8 section from Stapely water gardens , he did say it was his own fault. ( didnt even know they sold fishing pole)

I dont think either of the NEW modular suppliers are quite there yet. Glyns tease sounds interesting.

Hi Jeff,

I think that the reason that fishing poles are still cheaper is that not only are they made by the thousands, but also they are not as well made (for the job), do not contain as much carbon fibre and are not as purpose built. Having said that I would happily work with a converted fishing pole (and have done so for 18 months prior to the SL2), but I would rather sell something more suitable for the job. Eight months into selling the SL2 we have had so few problems with them as a retail product that it makes conventional poles look less reliable.

[frames to panes]

Alex, or Jeff, have you ever come across a protector tip that anglers use to guide one section into another? I'm asking because being lazy i tend to grab my stacked S2 from the van and rest it nose first on the ground whilst i slide the sections out. This of course is wearing the biggest secton away on the tip. I'm sure i have seen a rubber tip that sits inside the tube and protrudes beyond the wall somewhere? Maybe i can reshape a bung instead.

[Alex Gardiner]

Yes there is a fitting that does this I will look it up for you. 

[Jeff Brimble]

DJW The purpose made protector tip you want was on the new Halo/Emporium poles on the Omni site at Windex.
Any fishing pole is OK  to lets say 35ft. Its when you go higher you need light and stiff.

[Jeff Brimble]

Thats a good and fair precis of poles Luke. I remember that there was something about the Emp  you liked. From a user point I dont think there is much to distinguish between the Emp or the S2

I have recently restarted using the F16s and cannot really fault them for the price, last time I looked £250, which is half the current price of modulars. Just checked with an F16 User and he is still using his although he has bent his N0 8 section  and had to pay £70 rip off for a replacement 8 section from Stapely water gardens , he did say it was his own fault. ( didnt even know they sold fishing pole)

I dont think either of the NEW modular suppliers are quite there yet. Glyns tease sounds interesting.

Hi Jeff,

I think that the reason that fishing poles are still cheaper is that not only are they made by the thousands, but also they are not as well made (for the job), do not contain as much carbon fibre and are not as purpose built. Having said that I would happily work with a converted fishing pole (and have done so for 18 months prior to the SL2), but I would rather sell something more suitable for the job. Eight months into selling the SL2 we have had so few problems with them as a retail product that it makes conventional poles look less reliable.

Hi Alex you come from a selling/profit view, I come from a diy user/consumer point of view. Fishing poles are still ok to use to say 35ft-45ft with care. Its if you want to go higher that you need the stiffness/lightness.

[Alex Gardiner]

Thats a good and fair precis of poles Luke. I remember that there was something about the Emp  you liked. From a user point I dont think there is much to distinguish between the Emp or the S2

I have recently restarted using the F16s and cannot really fault them for the price, last time I looked £250, which is half the current price of modulars. Just checked with an F16 User and he is still using his although he has bent his N0 8 section  and had to pay £70 rip off for a replacement 8 section from Stapely water gardens , he did say it was his own fault. ( didnt even know they sold fishing pole)

I dont think either of the NEW modular suppliers are quite there yet. Glyns tease sounds interesting.

Hi Jeff,

I think that the reason that fishing poles are still cheaper is that not only are they made by the thousands, but also they are not as well made (for the job), do not contain as much carbon fibre and are not as purpose built. Having said that I would happily work with a converted fishing pole (and have done so for 18 months prior to the SL2), but I would rather sell something more suitable for the job. Eight months into selling the SL2 we have had so few problems with them as a retail product that it makes conventional poles look less reliable.

Hi Alex you come from a selling/profit view, I come from a diy user/consumer point of view. Fishing poles are still ok to use to say 35ft-45ft with care. Its if you want to go higher that you need the stiffness/lightness.

Your right Jeff and that is exactly my point of view. If I was simply using them I would make do with a converted fishing pole and accept its limitations and need for care. Because we are selling them to other people we need to ensure that there is a level of quality and design integrity that is up to the job for retail purposes.

Having said that, now I have the luxury of an SL2 I would not swap it for a fishing pole. In fact in my vehicle I carry an original SL1, but I never use it because I prefer the reliable strength of the SL2.