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Mike Halliday

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another leather question
« on: February 27, 2008, 11:40:27 am »
I know it looks lke I'm getting alot  problems with leather but I am cleaning a lot of it, most is'nt a problem.

here's a quote I did just now.

£150 for the clean & £30 for the colour repair, the customer thought this was just dirt and would clean off, 
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Mike Halliday

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Re: another leather question
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2008, 11:51:24 am »
fogot to ask the question ::) ::)

both the top coat & the colour has been worn off, I'm concerned with the darkness of the mark & the feel of it ( slightly greasy/damp) has the leather been contaminated with the grease from his hands? can anyone see any problems? or will it re-dye with correct dyeing prcedure?
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Ian Gourlay

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Re: another leather question
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2008, 12:00:00 pm »
Im a bit puzzled as the picture says chemdry jpeg

But  it will be interesting to read the replies on how to deal with it.

LTT Leathercare

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Re: another leather question
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2008, 12:22:21 pm »
From the looks of this Mike it is not grease that has caused the problem entirely.  The pigment has worn away and then grease has added to the problem.

You would need to degrease the area (4 hours minimum for the product to work) and then do your colour work.  Surface degreasing will not be sufficent to solve the problem and ensure correct adhesion of colour.

£30.00!!!  we would be looking at about £80.00 - £120.00 for this job.
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Mike Roper

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Re: another leather question
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2008, 12:30:07 pm »
You could easy run up £30  mixing a colour for that one, unless its one of those that goes right.
Mike

Mike Halliday

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Re: another leather question
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2008, 01:19:37 pm »
Ian I downloaded all the photos off my camera onto my computer, these 2 photos where only part of them, the others where of a separate nature which I stored in my documents under the name 'Chemdry' that's why it says chemdry under the photo.

the colour would cost me £12 pre mixed from Furniture clinic. forget the £30 and look at the £180 I will get for the full job, if I decide to take it on at the moment I've only surveyed the job.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

*paul_moss

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Re: another leather question
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2008, 02:39:35 pm »
Mike glad to see the work coming in for you  ;) Well under priced on this one though, repair with he clean I would charge £250.
Done one very similar  end of last year and as Judy said they worn off top coat and dye and have pro got grease,detergents and  every thing else in there.

I degreased mine from the surface then used Furniture clinics new PU dye and top coat, even if the dye is very slightly tacky after aplication the PU top coat totally seals it in.
I did not believe it when Ben told me, but I tried it and it worked great. Went back o customers after 2 months and again 2 months from that to check it had set in and no problems. Im keeping an eye on this one for 12 months to see its durability and longevity.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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Ben Staerck

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Re: another leather question
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2008, 02:41:57 pm »
Hi Mike,

I did a job with pretty much the same damage. heres some photos

BEFORE


AFTER


Because its a small area, a lot of degreasing isn't necessary. I just prepped, alcohol, and then degreased it (once). The black mark was still there, but not as severe. Then sealed with the PU finish and job was done.

Anything more severe than that, I would suggest using several applications of degreaser and/or a machine application.



Mike Halliday

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Re: another leather question
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2008, 02:55:33 pm »
Paul how much do you charge for just a clean?

looking at F/C website  the degreaser requires 30mins to dry, so if I attend to the mark first then proceed to clean the rest of the suite ( which is hardly dirty) I could degrease twice before starting the recolouring, so I'm not actually creating any more time with the degreasing (because as its working I'll be cleaning the rest of the suite)

the recolouring will take 30mins??

so I see this taking a morning @ £180......  OK I'll have to buy the dye and degreaser but its till not bad



Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

*paul_moss

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Re: another leather question
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2008, 03:01:44 pm »
Mike £150 for a clean.
I would to the full clean first, then degrease,then dye,then topcoat, then apply protection cream to whole suite, then buff.
The repair is an extra hours work and dye and top coat will cost around £30, charge £70 for the work so £100 for repair added on to clean £250.

Judy or Ben
I find his alot on green suites where the base has a black finish to it, yet the under side of the leather is dyed green. any idea why they use black?
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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