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colley614

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Re: WFP Trailer and 45' pole?
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2007, 12:21:15 pm »
Dave did you read my post on Wednesday?

Captain Scarlet

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Re: WFP Trailer and 45' pole?
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2007, 12:30:29 pm »
colley youve got mail, Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

colley614

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Re: WFP Trailer and 45' pole?
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2007, 12:32:47 pm »

Not recieved mate, Try colley614@hotmail.co.uk

Captain Scarlet

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Re: WFP Trailer and 45' pole?
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2007, 12:34:10 pm »
Done, Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

dave0123

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Re: WFP Trailer and 45' pole?
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2007, 12:34:53 pm »
No mate what post was that?



Dave
Dave.

colley614

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Re: WFP Trailer and 45' pole?
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2007, 12:56:28 pm »
Luke, thanks!

Dave, I priced a job up last week and told the custy Wednesday afternoon. Get there Wednesday and there is ladders laid ni front of the job, which I thought nothing of. Speaks to the custy and they turn out to be another window cleaners that he had asked for a quote from. The guy came in at the same price as me although I'm wfp and he is trad! It was 4 hours cleaning with water fed and I priced on that, trad would have been 2 days work. So I gets started on the job and the window cleaner pulled up, nice bloke started chatting. Then the custy comes out and says sorry to him. They both walk off and start discussing price I had agrred for that job and his new premises and got quote for it. Whoever the customer had already agreed that I was quoting on the new premises. Honestly if I hadn't been giving somebody money from that job I would have just walked off there and then.

So I asked the custy once finished if he wanted me to quote. he said yeah but was in the sort of tone as if to say ' just to keep you happy' So I quoted on it which was also met with a ' don't call us, we'll call you attitude.'
Was fuming over this so I said the next day when I took written quote in" Well if you are going to use this other window cleaner then take this into consideration. I have a uniform. Modern equipment and everything is above board. On the other hand this guy you had here yesterday was in scrags, had ladders that were that old and battered that the rubber feet had worn away and some of the metal too. Basically them ladder will go from under him one day and lets hope it not on your premises. Because the other window cleaner knows that I have offered you a ladderless alternative so if he falls, which is highly likely and he knows his salt. He would know that the Working At Heights Legislation states. That you can get done for causing injury by using a ladder if there was an alternative method available. If he fell 30 foot from a ladder and broke his legs, he would probably get desperate and try doing you for that. And you would be liable as you chose the alternative."

The guys face was a picture. I don't understand how at the same price he picked a guy that looks a mess when I turn up uniformed, with magbnetic adverts on my car doors, with the latest equipment. The last thing I said to the custy before I left was consider this " You asked him this morning, he has been trading 20 years so by now will have a full work load. But managed to fit you in this afternoon. So he must be dumping a customer or to considering it will take him at least 8 hours to do. What happens when he is supposed to be at your premises but had a better offer?"

Bloody annoying!     

dave0123

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Re: WFP Trailer and 45' pole?
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2007, 01:51:44 pm »
I know what you mean mate it is anoying.


I lost a job the other month which was £10.00 and i got my ladders off and that and the person come out and said ohhh wev got another window cleaner now and i said oh right :| he said hes cheaper charging £3.50..  i jus started to walk off and said 3.50  :o totaly shocked and i said hes proberly not insured or anything and the fella said yeah proberly..


They dont care and its anoying when we try our best to be profesional fully insured and try to keep our prices to a minium to get work, obv we have costs unlike them.

Dave
Dave.

colley614

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Re: WFP Trailer and 45' pole?
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2007, 01:57:24 pm »

I got a guy gob smacked a few weeks ago because he asked how much on semi and I quote £10. Oh the other window cleaner charges £4.00 was my response to which I replied " Ok, I know a smack head who fits comby boilers for £200. Seen as you like that type of person working for you, call me when your boiler breaks down and I'll get him round to fit you one. You've got my card"

 ;D

dave0123

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Re: WFP Trailer and 45' pole?
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2007, 02:09:46 pm »
Stupid isnt it...


it really anoys me because they wont do it ohh no they wont go up the ladder and clean there windows but they dont want to pay anything for someone to climb up the ladder! am sure if u said ok would u clean your windows for 3.50? or 4.00 am sure they wouldnt get out of bed for it.


But then on the other hand u get those customers who say oh i dont care how much it is they just need doing  ;D


Dave
Dave.