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The WoolSafe Organisation

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How do you choose your products?
« on: June 27, 2007, 09:26:35 am »
Hi everyone!

This question was raised the other day: when choosing cleaning products, do you, as a carpet (and upholstery) cleaner:

1. use established products from well-known brands/manufacturers, reasoning that they must be OK;

or:

2. try out new products when they appear and use them if they work for you, regardless of who makes them;

or:

3. use products that have been independently tested and accredited (by a reputable organisation), on the basis that they will perform OK and are probably the safest;

or:

4. do you use another way to get your hands on the best products for you?

Your comments would be appreciated!

Regards,

Paul Bakker

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AquaMagic

  • Posts: 563
Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 12:31:38 pm »
Usually get a sample and test as whart works for me may not work for someone else due to ,

Differences in hardness of water
Differences in cleaning system
Differences in method of agitation (if any)
Differences in cleaning temp.

im sure there are more, but for me i test and use accoridngly, it doesnt matter where they came from as long as they do a good job without damaging a carpet, i.e i do try to use products with a PH of 6.5 to 8 ish when cleaning wool for example.

Thanks

Dene

Ian Gourlay

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Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2007, 03:46:07 pm »
I do not believe in constantly following the lattest Fad.

I buy from established manufacturers in the industry and trust their product does what it says.

That said all companies have got to start somewhere, but  if a supplier over hipes their product its a big turn off.


Chris R

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Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 08:25:58 pm »
A question for the woolsafe organisation.

How come many of the supermarket carpet cleaning / spotting products that have the " woolsafe approved logo" cause some carpets to bleach ?

regards

Chris
Staffordshire

ianharper

Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 08:28:18 pm »
Paul

I know that woolsafe are going to be doing green testing on the manufacture of products soon. which is great, but what I would like to see is more independent approach to the products tested. for example. woolsafe know which products work better than others but because the producer is paying for the woolsafe test would not publish these results, like re-soiling.

The "which" consumers association approach for carpet cleaners.

Manufacturers make claims and it would be nice for all to know to which level these claims go. (the 0 to 60mph test)

Respect

Ian harper



Respect

Ian Harper




AquaMagic

  • Posts: 563
Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2007, 10:36:02 pm »
Damn good point Chris R!!!!!


So why woolsafe?

Dene

Cloverleaf

Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2007, 11:11:48 pm »
I would choose 1 and 2.

I choose products from...for example Prochem because I know they have done a lot of research and testing in their products and they actually do work in most cases.

I also use products from say Craftex because they will also do a specific job for me.

Over the years, I'v found what works and most importantly gives results regardless of cost as chemicals are a small overhead compared to other costs.

Knowing what chemical to use for a specific job is most important.

John




1. use established products from well-known brands/manufacturers, reasoning that they must be OK;


2. try out new products when they appear and use them if they work for you, regardless of who makes them;

David_Annable

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Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2007, 11:19:55 pm »
Hi

From what i understand from a woolsafe point of view, even new carpets are dirty and using spotters gives a bleaching effect.

Althought the products dont actually contain any bleaches.

Dave

NCCA, Woolsafe, IICRC Leather Cleaning Technician

Doug Holloway

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Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 07:44:09 am »
Hi

As my stock chemicals I would use products from well known manufacturers using Woolsafe when appropriate.This is complicated by manufacturers claiming that products are safe to use on wool, meaning I have to make a judgement on this.

Further complications are added by not knowing the criteria by which products are adjudged Woolsafe.

Is alkalinity more important than pH for example.

I also like to try new products but like others I am put off by repeated claims of the greatest product ever, no doubt to be followed by the greatest product ever etc.

I also like to experiment with my own spotters/stain removers .

Information/knowledge is power and I would like to see far more informed discussion about product compositions rather than all the hype .

Cheers

Doug




Ian Gourlay

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Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 12:37:23 pm »
I agree a ehich Guideto carpet Cleaning products would be good.

I presume Manufacturers want the logo to sell more products.

They would not pay to be compared with other products .

Len Gribble

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Re: How do you choose your products?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2007, 10:30:49 pm »
Paul
Is your site up to date?  As one UK Company uses your logo and not listed or is it a re-brand and can stick your logo on it? (That would let cats amongst the pigeons, as we were told not the same) a standard Licence number for each product would help then we would know the sheep from the wolves


Don’t do a lot of wool carpets do some 80/20 I presume it’s the 20% that is the bane of my life, not to mention the woolsafe spotters.

Your silence is golden by the way!

Also if you are considering cleaning the carpet or rug yourself make sure to use only WOOLSAFE-approved products. Look for this Mark on the bottle or package! God forbid they leave the carpart wet for days!

Please convince me I’m wrong (there it goes!)

Len
Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other. (Sidcup Kent)