[Bjorn]

Seem to have hit a raw nerve yesterday about tax credits and being workshy.

Just out of interest, please answer the above question.

[Paul Coleman]

Seem to have hit a raw nerve yesterday about tax credits and being workshy.

Just out of interest, please answer the above question.

I get nothing.  I have no children.
I am a government cash cow.

[windows_chepstow]

I don't get any Tax Credits either, since I was grossly overpaid them last year, since they had a lower figure than what I actually turned over.

My fault I know, but I think it's about February next year before we start getting them again.

Thank you Shiner, for giving me some of your earnings, when I do get them.

[matt]

Seem to have hit a raw nerve yesterday about tax credits and being workshy.

Just out of interest, please answer the above question.

if you think you hit a raw nerve with me, you are very much mistaken, i just like to defend the people who think they have more in life than a big bank balance ( inc me )

[craig jwc]

I paid my way from leaving school and worked hard.

But as soon as i got custody of my 2 kids over 3 years ago i decided to try and make a claim. I'm a single parent so i would be stupid not too.

If your entitled to it then why not. I don't get much at all because of what i earn. It will come to a point where i won't be able to claim anything as my income increases.

I work all week and only take time off when the kids are ill or the weather is that bad you can't work.

The Tax Credit is there to help the kids, and why not. If i didn't have kids then i wouldn't get it.

I don't begrudge anybody claiming what there entitled too, but i do when it comes to those who sit on their backsides all day doing nothing and getting money for it.

Just because you get Tax Credit it doesn't mean you don't want to work

[matt]

I don't begrudge anybody claiming what there entitled too, but i do when it comes to those who sit on their backsides all day doing nothing and getting money for it.

exactly, the family tax creidt doesnt amount to much
YET people dont seem to be moaning about all the people who come here to just play the system

Just because you get Tax Credit it doesn't mean you don't want to work

it s.posed to help those who have unskilled / semiskilled jobs, who if they didnt get the TC would be better off just staying at home on the dole

[busydaffodil]

I get nothing.  I have no children.
I am a government cash cow.

snap.   

Dont start me on this subject.....i get enraged by the treatment of people who do not/cannot have children.

[windows_chepstow]

I get nothing.  I have no children.
I am a government cash cow.

snap.   

Dont start me on this subject.....i get enraged by the treatment of people who do not/cannot have children.

Why get upset about this?  Goverment has always encouraged good social behavior with the tax system.  We need children for the good of the economy and the future of the country. 

You do realise the implications of an ageing population, don't you?

Surely I don't have to explain any further?

There's better stuff to get upset about, such as the school teachers who just spent two 'teacher training days' in a French Chateau; all travel, subsistance and accommodation paid for by the tax-payer.

The justification was that the Headteacher said that the teachers would take in more information if they were in a different environment to the norm!!!!!

But to me it sounds like a good 'jolly' (army slang for a holiday at the public expense).

[Robert Parry]

Using the tax system (ie. Tax Credits) is the wrong way to help those on lower incomes, the idea of the national minimumn wage, was to ensure that all workers, regardless of industry, would be paid a fair livable wage.

Using the tax system to supplement low wages is the road to hell, it offers no real long term benefit, all it does is ensure that the tax take on those who are not on the Tax Credit system continually rises.

If you believe Gordon and his cronies that this system is sustainable long term, you must be forgetting that most of the so called improvements in this country, have yet to be paid for, sooner or later that money is going to have to be paid back, he even had to change the economic cycle, in order not to break his own rules.

Whilst in place, anybody who can claim Tax Credits, should do so, that is not the issue, as far as I am concerned, but long term, this is a disaster waiting to happen.

Regards,

Rob

[Florida Cleaning]

Just like Craig JWC I got custody of my 2 young kids and throu

[Florida Cleaning]

Just like Craig JWC I got custody of my 2 young kids and through neccessity had to work part time.Not everyone recieving tax credits is lazy.There are those entitled and may use them temporarily and those who are happy to sit in and watch the Jeremy Kyle show!

[chris@c.m.s]

Just like Craig JWC I got custody of my 2 young kids and through neccessity had to work part time.Not everyone recieving tax credits is lazy.There are those entitled and may use them temporarily and those who are happy to sit in and watch the Jeremy Kyle show!

That makes 3 of us then. Glad I'm not alone, Part time unless you have really good family support is about as much as anyone should expect from a single parent, It doesnt exactly stop when you get home does it,   

[matt]

Any of you single parents get my full sympathy.

My problem is with people who take more than they give.

They then "Preach" about morality etc.

i doublt many here take more than they give

afterall you would need to earn VERY LITTLE indeed

[DASERVICES]

  Tax credits replaced the married man's allowance which all married couples
   used to get.

   Here is how it works for those who do not know :-

   Take an average family with 3 kids you will receive the following allowances
   which you net off your earnings :-

   Child Tax Credit

   Family element £545
   Child element 1  £1765
   Child element 2 £1765
   Child element 3 £1765

   Working Tax Credit

    Basic element      £1665
    Couples element £1640
    30hr element       £680

    In total that gives you an element of £9825

    You then have a threshold of £5220 which you subtract your profit from
    so if your profit was £16k ( note not gross income ) you then deduct this
    from the threshold giving you an excess income of £10780.

    Next you calculate 37% of your excess income which gives you £3988. This
    figure you subtract from your element of £9825 which gives you an
    entitlement of £5836 of tax credits.

    That how it basically works but not what you get actually paid as the
     Tax office add their little % for overpayment etc...

     So to never get paid tax credit a married man with 3 kids would have to
     earn £32k profit which would be around £55k net.

     It works for some people for others it goes against them.

     Hope this helps.

     Doug

[simbo]

it was explained to me some time ago, that to give back more money to people with children means that it is more likely to go straight back into the economy simply because
they spend more, ie food clothes and all manner of things which need to to be made or supplied thus giving employment, meaning = employees paying tax thus keeping the money coming in. People without children generally have 2 wages but overall spend less cash ie saving it, not the case for everyone i know but makes sense to me and add in what was saved from the married tax allowance aswell the government are not really giving us anything
simbo

[DASERVICES]

So you tell the tax man your profit is £2.5k and because you have 5 kids you take £13k of the state?

Nope you seem to judge people very quickly, I have other earnings. The £2.5k is
window cleaning earnings only, everything is legit and honest. Bet your halo has slipped 

[idealrob]

It only pays to a maximium of three kids.

robert t

[pjulk]

Most people are getting £100 plus per week christ i must be doing something wrong.
We dont even get that a month from them.

Mind you i can only claim for two kids as one is now to old.

Paul

[matt]

100 quid per week