[rich hand]

Carpetguy & Kev, i use spitfire advanced and have never witnessed dye transfer to carpet, this counts for my 1000 + jobs and 1000s of different carpets both here and in sydney, Oz. Also, I have never had a single call back.

Derek, customers go on appearance as I do and I charge accordingly ie. I dont charge for prespraying under furniture when it wont be appreciated and therefore isnt necessary. Its the customers choice.

In time its easy to get lost in your own world, keep an eye on whats happening around you 

[Buster Ingram]

(In time its easy to get lost in your own world, keep an eye on whats happening around you )

Nicely put Rich

[Shaun_Ashmore]

the good book by the NCCA and others guidlines are to save us from accidents BUT you have to remember that it is written for every eventuality.

It is also manditary to use common sense.
(unless you are not common, like me )

King Shaun

I might keep this post and keep quoting it from time to time.

Shaun

[Buster Ingram]

Shaun,
Not only has your mind gone it seems your memory has gone with it too!!

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Memory went when I went to clean the Alzhiemers Society carpets!

But I can't rmember when or where i put it.

Shaun

[Derek]

Rich Hand

I clean carpets...that's what I am paid for.

I have said before, cleaners cater for their own customers requirements, there are those customers who want to pay £10 a room....there is a cleaner who will clean for that figure...there are customers who may accept non furniture removal and there are cleaners who cater for that as well....that's good for business all round...you could say a win,win situation

I personally sell on the fact that I clean 'all the carpet/upholstery' in fact offer a good service....I make no apologies for that.

This is why I don't have to spend extortionate amounts on advertising and distributing thousands of leaflets every month.

You made an amusing reference to my 'own little world' ...well, I am perfectly happy within it

I think we will have to agree to disagree on this particular issue

Have a nice day

[carpetguy]

Rich hand

I've never heard of Spitfire advanced, but I've only been around for 62 years and only trialled products from the UK and USA.

Maybe you've been lucky, or maybe you're colour blind, but, unless you just started last week, or keep well away from furniture, when both, prespraying / cleaning, or don't move furniture, or maybe even lift the carpets, take them away and bring them back, dry.

It is totally impossible to avoid dye transferring from some dark stained wood to carpets
....even the slightest intrusion by chemical free water will cause some dyes to run.

Unless, of course, they have glides , or similar, placed underneath, before starting, but that is not what you're suggesting.

Not sure about your ambiguous remark, being ambiguous

robbie

[rich hand]

Derek all I disagree on is that I am sure you are providing a service part of which your customers know nothing about.

Carpetguy, if I am am colour blind so are my customers. Spitfire advanced is definately one of the best detergents for safe carpet cleaning and is woolsafe. It comes from Oz and is sold by dry fusion over there and over here, heard of them!? You may have been in the business for '62 years' but you cant close your eyes now!

[craigp]

it is quite possible that oz being a more mordern place that these furniture are alot more rare, i mean its often antiques that do this, and seeing as there rare here, if they are even more rare there its quite possible that you could go many years without ever seeing furniture that bleeds.

[calmore]

Freezer bags from the supermarket are good for placing under furniture legs. Cheap and effective.

[Derek]

Many Supermarket bags have printing on them which will and often does transfer onto a damp carpet.

Chemspec sell plastic squares in a pad that can be kept in a top pocket of your shirt... cheap, simple and more professional

[carpetguy]

Rich'

If it's a DF product I can now see where you're coming from, but why the avasive behaviour.........all you had to say, was, I use Dry Fusion, so I avoid this problem and you would have several DF users agreeing.

I don't particularly like DF or Tex'm, but acknowledge their use in commercial, low f=profile carpets.

Being a bit more upfront, would have avoided confusion.

Incidentally if you think an acceptance of DF makes your eyes and presumably your mind more open, your sadly mistaken

[rich hand]

carpetguy, I just dont like the text book, and of course an acceptance for DF alone certainly doesnt qualify for an open mind.

[Derek]

But text books are the fount of knowledge...you really shouldn't discount them

[Shaun_Ashmore]

My text books always used to say - SEE ME, in big thick red marker pen !

Shaun

[rich hand]

By stating 'not liking text books' I am meaning once we have built a general foundation of knowledge we should branch out and not be held rigid by text books.

Having had a fairly extensive academic background I know that after a certain amount of time the text book has to put down so that we can advance our learning. Whether its through industry/journal papers or exerience and trial and error.