[neil 47]

I am considering going into partnership .

I find that I havn,t got enough time to keep on top of everything.ie marketing,quores & cleaning.

From what I have seen on the forum,s most succesfull cc have two pepole working together.
would anyone recommed this or not 

Thanks

    Neil

[spickandspan]

Hi Neil I started c/c in 1992 with a partner and was told never to be in a partnership, but we did ok and yes i would say go for it as long as you get on ok now.

[PaulKing]

What new skills will they be bringing, if none employ a operator, marketing company or telesales person  to do what your not good. Then spend your extra time on what your good at.

easy way to say this 1hour marketing consultant time cost me 1 1/2 hours cleaning time, but get ideas ect that would take me a week to do otherwise if at all.

Also found the bigest problem with a partnership is who does the most cleaning, let face it it will probably be you as you have most experiance, leaving you no more time free to do what you wanted to do in the first place but with 1 more wage going out.

Although it not easy, it's still simpler to fire staff if they are no good at their job that to get shot of a partner.

And like staff good hard working partners are hard to come by, especially if they are a friend and only see the benifits of being a CC and not the hard work.

However there are benifits such as they are more likely to stay with the company if they have cash invested, so they can see a return. 

Good luck in your choice, I would vote stay on your own and get staff.

[Cleantime Europe Limited]

Stay on your own. It may be ok in the begginning but then when you have to make a decision and he doesn't agree then thats when the relationship founders and the business can go tits up in many ways.

[jasonl]

THE ONLY SHIP THAT DOES NOT SALE ......A partnerSHIP.....However Ihave been with mine 13 years, on several ventures, we are best of friends too though, my advice would b not to get wives involved, and talk about issuesearly on.

[HQCS (John Kastrian)]

I have many friends who work as a partnersip,and there is usually nothing to worry about,but I also know of businesses that have failed due to one or the other partner not pulling their weight.
I totally disagree with the comment above about not getting wives involved in the business,why ever not?
If anyone feels unable to work with their wife then they must have serious marital problems.
Taking your wife into the business is the best decision you could make,and keeps your finances where they belong.

[Cleantime Europe Limited]

'behind every good businessman there is a good businesswoman'

[stevegunn]

What new skills will they be bringing, if none employ a operator, marketing company or telesales person  to do what your not good. Then spend your extra time on what your good at.

easy way to say this 1hour marketing consultant time cost me 1 1/2 hours cleaning time, but get ideas ect that would take me a week to do otherwise if at all.

Also found the bigest problem with a partnership is who does the most cleaning, let face it it will probably be you as you have most experiance, leaving you no more time free to do what you wanted to do in the first place but with 1 more wage going out.

Although it not easy, it's still simpler to fire staff if they are no good at their job that to get shot of a partner.

And like staff good hard working partners are hard to come by, especially if they are a friend and only see the benifits of being a CC and not the hard work.

However there are benifits such as they are more likely to stay with the company if they have cash invested, so they can see a return. 

Good luck in your choice, I would vote stay on your own and get staff.

Ok I won't be you friend just you business partner But if you or your employees cannot cope with demand just pick the phone up might be able to fit you in

[The Great One]

Hi neil

I would also say...

Stay on your own and employ a marketing person to bring the work in, I am about to take this route, I am about to go into job procurement and expansion as much as I can, tired of being just a one man band, want bigger and better things, also want/ need a 2 person team out there.

Regards

Martin

[PaulKing]

no problem Mr Gunn thank you for the offer I will be calling you. Just don't show me up too much

[PaulKing]

what was the link to your board, i have lost it? could'nt find it on google either ? is it still going?

[jasonl]

When talking about wives , I meant  in a partnership as in 2x couples, husband and and wife teams, I see no problems with , its when you get a foursome trouble can brew. eg, you know your partner better than your wife does, she starts to dislike partner/time spent with him ,, the list goes on , I have seen that many times.

[neil 47]

The reason I asked this question is that ,my brother in -law was in the same position.
He took on a partner and his business has grown much larger than he could of done it himself .

And as a result has a business that is worth a lot ,instead of a business that just makes you money each week.
I think a lot of us cc spend to much time cleaning and not a enough time making a business.
I,ve seen a few on here suffer ill health after years of cleaning and all they end up with is a few thousand pounds for all that work.
I want more than that.

The trouble I see with employing someone is what’s to stop them leaving and setting up themselves .
What happens when they go sick.

Thanks for your reply ,gives me some good ideas to think about.


Neil

[PaulKing]

The trouble I see with employing someone is what’s to stop them leaving and setting up themselves .
What happens when they go sick.

Everyones goes sick once in a while, best thing is they can cover for you and you can cover for them. If it happens every monday morning and friday afternoon, unlucky give them the bus fare to the job centre!

As for keeping staff give them the back up/ training / best equipment. and take them for pint once in a while.  oh and pay them well, never had anyone want to leave yet.