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jo5hm4n

  • Posts: 954
Replacing Brushes.
« on: December 13, 2017, 08:58:08 pm »
So i am very recently looking for ways to save water and time during the day.  Even making small changes means you can do one extra house per day, thats potentially £10 per day £50 per week £200 per month.  It all adds up.

Have already made some small changes this year which have helped out quite alot.

One area i am lacking in though is Brushes.  I use the Medium Mixed Sill Brush from Gardiners with pencil jets.  This has done me fine so far, no real issues, but i haven't tried to explore with other brushes AT ALL.  I feel i may be missing out here, and not improving and bettering myself.  Today i ordered another Medium Mixed Sill Brush for a new SLX pole i have ordered.

Oh my god the difference when agitating was insane.  Like in less than half the time of agitating all the dirt was gone 100%.  Now i feel like a full fledged idiot because i haven't been looking after my brushes or paying any attention to them.

I knew my brushes were looking dodgy, but i didnt realise how long it was till i last ordered them.  10th June 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what i am wondering is, does this explain why last few months its been taking longer to achieve good results when agitating?  For the amount of time i believe i could save in cleaning alone, i am now thinking i should be changing brushes every 1-3 months.  Even if i can clean 1 house per day faster, thats more than worth ordering a new brush every month at £30 a pop.

Really need some feedback on this, feel like a proper donut for not taking care or even noticing how BAD my brushes actually were.  I might even do a side by side video to see the difference in cleaning power with old vs new brush.

How often do you lot change your brushes?

dazmond

  • Posts: 24425
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2017, 09:13:42 pm »
i use a variety of different brushes ranging from xtreme brushes,SL,ultimate,some are flocked,stiff,medium bristle,natural bristle etc depending on work that day or even the mood im in. ;D

if you ve been using the same brush for a year then a new one will scrub better as they lose their edge after a while esp when they start to curl up at the edges.
price higher/work harder!

paul alan

  • Posts: 1683
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2017, 09:19:04 pm »
Daily!!

I have a tucker mono with pencil and fan jets, I have a 14" stiff bristle with 4-6 jets,  gardiner super lite, a compact with three jets(my fave), an extreme, a supreme, one of them gardiner yellow ones too which I like. I just sold an xline rinse bar brush which was for me crap.

I run 2 jets , 3 jets , 4 jets, 6 jets, 100 degree fans, 50 degree fans and I have just bought a flocked compact which I will be putting a rinse bar on when it arrives!!

Proper brush fetish! They all have there uses, the tucker has  strong bristles and is great for first cleans, the extreme is so light its great for hard to reach and high windows. The 14" for large panes.

These will last ages being swapped around, usually you can tell when a brush is goosed just by looking at the bristles.

On the gardiner website it gives a guide as to how long each brush will roughly last.

nathankaye

  • Posts: 5366
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2017, 09:20:05 pm »
Lol, the brush what makes the big difference to the clean. Sure Hot water helps or some even like to use chemicals of some sort to help on really bad first cleans, but never under estimate having a great brush.
For me, its all about short stiff bristles, I really dont understand how people like to use a brush that splays on the glass, as its the tips of the bristles which do the work.

Same when I spent my many years on trad work, I would replace the rubbers every 4 - 7 days.
With my brushes, its when they start to splay easily every  time I use them and theres not set time as to when that will be (or ive not noticed yet).
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paul alan

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Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2017, 09:22:18 pm »
Lol, the brush what makes the big difference to the clean. Sure Hot water helps or some even like to use chemicals of some sort to help on really bad first cleans, but never under estimate having a great brush.
For me, its all about short stiff bristles, I really dont understand how people like to use a brush that splays on the glass, as its the tips of the bristles which do the work.

Same when I spent my many years on trad work, I would replace the rubbers every 4 - 7 days.
With my brushes, its when they start to splay easily every  time I use them and theres not set time as to when that will be (or ive not noticed yet).

Definitely short bristles!

p1w1

  • Posts: 3873
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2017, 09:25:26 pm »
 I dont think there is a  golden rule when to change them there's too many variables to take into account,  bit like your own toothbrush when it looks/feels worn you change it. I use the supreme brushes and probably renew it every 4-6 months, when you use the same brush all the time you get to the stage when you just know it's probably time to renew it.
 

paul alan

  • Posts: 1683
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2017, 09:26:31 pm »
Funny you should mention that josh as I'm just checking the constructor brush out on youtube.

Cant work out if its worth the money or not, I like the fact you can change it up and the bronze wool addition sounds great. Bronze wool just eats through the dirt and mess so easy.

paul alan

  • Posts: 1683
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 09:28:18 pm »
Stop by and borrow some brushes and you can try before you buy!

windowswashed

  • Posts: 2625
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2017, 09:50:52 pm »
I tried a bronze pad that is fitted on the constructor brush, not impressed with it yet. Took the block out and will shorten the protruding height of it as I find that the remainder of the bristles can't splay properly on the glass like they are suppose to, but they will when I've reduced the height by about 5-8mm. NB. DON'T use bronze brush pad on tinted windows or some self cleaning glass.
I find the industrial brush too hard for daily use.
Got my constructor brushes set up with standard fitting bristles, then add one row of boars hair for scrubbing power, miss out the third row of bristles so that it's easier to squash the brush flat when getting right in the corners with a good flow of water otherwise there is a shortage of water right in the corner and replace the bottom bristles with shorter, softer ones so  it performs better than the upstroke constructor brush does from the website, think I've cracked the ideal configuration after all the trials and time to perfect the ideal brush  ;D

Dry Clean

  • Posts: 9000
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2017, 10:13:55 pm »
To hell with all that agitating, get into something handier like 4 or 8 weekly window cleaning, there's virtually nothing on the glass to remove.

Stoots

  • Posts: 6352
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2017, 10:25:42 pm »
My favourite brush is a Gardiner medium mixed sill.

But it's too heavy so I use an extreme mostly.

I use my brushes until there's not much left of them, too expensive to be changing every 2 months. I would expect 6-12 months from a brush depending which one it is.

bobplum

  • Posts: 5602
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2017, 11:20:07 pm »
So i am very recently looking for ways to save water and time during the day.  Even making small changes means you can do one extra house per day, thats potentially £10 per day £50 per week £200 per month.  It all adds up.

Have already made some small changes this year which have helped out quite alot.

One area i am lacking in though is Brushes.  I use the Medium Mixed Sill Brush from Gardiners with pencil jets.  This has done me fine so far, no real issues, but i haven't tried to explore with other brushes AT ALL.  I feel i may be missing out here, and not improving and bettering myself.  Today i ordered another Medium Mixed Sill Brush for a new SLX pole i have ordered.

Oh my god the difference when agitating was insane.  Like in less than half the time of agitating all the dirt was gone 100%.  Now i feel like a full fledged idiot because i haven't been looking after my brushes or paying any attention to them.

I knew my brushes were looking dodgy, but i didnt realise how long it was till i last ordered them.  10th June 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what i am wondering is, does this explain why last few months its been taking longer to achieve good results when agitating?  For the amount of time i believe i could save in cleaning alone, i am now thinking i should be changing brushes every 1-3 months.  Even if i can clean 1 house per day faster, thats more than worth ordering a new brush every month at £30 a pop.

Really need some feedback on this, feel like a proper donut for not taking care or even noticing how BAD my brushes actually were.  I might even do a side by side video to see the difference in cleaning power with old vs new brush.

How often do you lot change your brushes?

i too feel you need to change brushes every 3 months or so for maximum effect, i re bristled my constructor brush last night and used it today and to me its probably the most effective cleaning brush i have used, is it worth a £100 odd pounds? , long term i think so.......another thing to look at may be your cleaning technique, if you look at the videos on the constructor brush you will see you can use less strokes per glass pane, i do it this way and in my opinion it works

bobplum

  • Posts: 5602
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2017, 11:21:34 pm »
So i am very recently looking for ways to save water and time during the day.  Even making small changes means you can do one extra house per day, thats potentially £10 per day £50 per week £200 per month.  It all adds up.

Have already made some small changes this year which have helped out quite alot.

One area i am lacking in though is Brushes.  I use the Medium Mixed Sill Brush from Gardiners with pencil jets.  This has done me fine so far, no real issues, but i haven't tried to explore with other brushes AT ALL.  I feel i may be missing out here, and not improving and bettering myself.  Today i ordered another Medium Mixed Sill Brush for a new SLX pole i have ordered.

Oh my god the difference when agitating was insane.  Like in less than half the time of agitating all the dirt was gone 100%.  Now i feel like a full fledged idiot because i haven't been looking after my brushes or paying any attention to them.

I knew my brushes were looking dodgy, but i didnt realise how long it was till i last ordered them.  10th June 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what i am wondering is, does this explain why last few months its been taking longer to achieve good results when agitating?  For the amount of time i believe i could save in cleaning alone, i am now thinking i should be changing brushes every 1-3 months.  Even if i can clean 1 house per day faster, thats more than worth ordering a new brush every month at £30 a pop.

Really need some feedback on this, feel like a proper donut for not taking care or even noticing how BAD my brushes actually were.  I might even do a side by side video to see the difference in cleaning power with old vs new brush.

How often do you lot change your brushes?

i too feel you need to change brushes every 3 months or so for maximum effect, i re bristled my constructor brush last night and used it today and to me its probably the most effective cleaning brush i have used, is it worth a £100 odd pounds? , long term i think so.......another thing to look at may be your cleaning technique, if you look at the videos on the constructor brush you will see you can use less strokes per glass pane, i do it this way and in my opinion it works

We will be cleaning in Mold in a week or two you're welcome to meet up and try the constructor brush

Splash & dash

  • Posts: 4364
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2017, 11:42:13 pm »
I tried a bronze pad that is fitted on the constructor brush, not impressed with it yet. Took the block out and will shorten the protruding height of it as I find that the remainder of the bristles can't splay properly on the glass like they are suppose to, but they will when I've reduced the height by about 5-8mm. NB. DON'T use bronze brush pad on tinted windows or some self cleaning glass.
I find the industrial brush too hard for daily use.
Got my constructor brushes set up with standard fitting bristles, then add one row of boars hair for scrubbing power, miss out the third row of bristles so that it's easier to squash the brush flat when getting right in the corners with a good flow of water otherwise there is a shortage of water right in the corner and replace the bottom bristles with shorter, softer ones so  it performs better than the upstroke constructor brush does from the website, think I've cracked the ideal configuration after all the trials and time to perfect the ideal brush  ;D



What is the difference between these constructor brushes ? They look heavy , I use Gardiner supreme stiff on all my poles do you know what the difference in use would be ? Are they compatible with hot water ? Ime always open to new ideas and don’t mind trying new stuff but they are expensive and no idear which one to get if any ?. 

zesty

  • Posts: 2600
Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2017, 07:27:18 am »
Tried all sorts of brushes, I now stick with the the Xtreme natural, it’s so light and has very good scrubbing power. You can agitate fast because it’s so light.

I also use high flow (90 on the controller out if the usual 99) this makes rinsing quick and easy. Reducing fatigue and speeding up the job.

The other thing I use is 3mm jets, it create a better flow down the glass, with no lost water due to spray back. The 3mm jets creates a stream of water down the glass speeding up rinsing. When I used 2mm jets I lost some water with splash back etc. So less was actually falling down the glass. The more water you can get moving down the glass the heavier it is and the quicker it rinses off dirt and debris.

I’ve not changed this setup in 2 years now and can’t see how I could work any faster with the above setup. (Oh and hot water)

bobplum

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Re: Replacing Brushes.
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2017, 07:35:07 am »
I tried a bronze pad that is fitted on the constructor brush, not impressed with it yet. Took the block out and will shorten the protruding height of it as I find that the remainder of the bristles can't splay properly on the glass like they are suppose to, but they will when I've reduced the height by about 5-8mm. NB. DON'T use bronze brush pad on tinted windows or some self cleaning glass.
I find the industrial brush too hard for daily use.
Got my constructor brushes set up with standard fitting bristles, then add one row of boars hair for scrubbing power, miss out the third row of bristles so that it's easier to squash the brush flat when getting right in the corners with a good flow of water otherwise there is a shortage of water right in the corner and replace the bottom bristles with shorter, softer ones so  it performs better than the upstroke constructor brush does from the website, think I've cracked the ideal configuration after all the trials and time to perfect the ideal brush  ;D



What is the difference between these constructor brushes ? They look heavy , I use Gardiner supreme stiff on all my poles do you know what the difference in use would be ? Are they compatible with hot water ? Ime always open to new ideas and don’t mind trying new stuff but they are expensive and no idear which one to get if any ?.

not very good with hot water , more a cold water brush