[a900]

Hey

I'm sure I read in another post that you use a wide brush with 4 jets. I'm looking at the gardiner ultimate 35 but can't decide 2mm or 1.2mm jets since I'm doubling the number. 

What jets did you settle on? Have you tried both?

Anyone else got views?

[M & C Window Cleaning]

I'm not saying it's right but I would be inclined to go for the smaller bore jet if you were increasing the number of them. But at the end of the day it's what works for you that matters.

I have a box full of bits that I will probably never use again where I've experimented with various combinations of things to find what works for me. Sometimes the combination of parts that works the best may surprise you.

[a900]

That's what I'm trying to avoid a box of bits.  I'm thinking I'm likely to use quite a bit more water with 4 x 2mm jets even if I'm rinsing faster but never used 1.2mm and wasn't sure if I would have a lot of splash back to produce the flow out of each jet that I'm used to. You get me?

[Spruce]

Hey

I'm sure I read in another post that you use a wide brush with 4 jets. I'm looking at the gardiner ultimate 35 but can't decide 2mm or 1.2mm jets since I'm doubling the number. 

What jets did you settle on? Have you tried both?

Anyone else got views?

I borrowed a 45cm brush a few months back. It had 4 only 1.4mm jets fitted and they gave a nice flow on my usual pump setting.

Using 4 only 2mm jets will demand a lot more water so will just dribble out on your usual flow setting.

We have a brush with 2 only 3mm pencil jets. The water on our usual pump settings just trickles out. I prefer working with a reasonable stream of water coming out of the pencil jets.

2 x 3mm jets will perform in a similar to  4 by 2mm jets. 

Roughly a 2mm jet is half the size of a 3mm and a 1.4mm jet is half the size of a 2mm jet.

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[nathankaye]

Sorry only just seen this post. I'll check which ones i use tomorrow n post a pick because i cant recall which brush im currently using, other than its dual trim.

Of top of head i think it is the smaller jets. On my pure freedom digi display, i find 70 works quite nicely for me. But i was running it before on 45 ok as well. But then i tried experimenting with various speeds till i found one that suited me.

Ive never used fan jets, i got persuaded not to try them from a couple of shiners i knew on wfp.  However i may give 4 fans a try or just 2, to give like a rinse bar effect, on the next brush replacement. But not sure yet

[a900]

Right now it sounds like 4 x 1.2mm will give me a better rinse than In getting now so could save time with some windows

[SeanK]

Right now it sounds like 4 x 1.2mm will give me a better rinse than In getting now so could save time with some windows

Nope, all rubbish but there may be a placebo in having 4 jets and that could save you some time.

[a900]

You saying I'll be rinsing more than I need to?

[nathankaye]

You saying I'll be rinsing more than I need to?

Mate, this is sean k the pessimist. Most likely to disagree with anyone on her 

[SeanK]

You saying I'll be rinsing more than I need to?

What is actually on the glass your cleaning ? you will have bird poo, snail trails, pollen and a coating of dust and spotting
caused by rain.
Now what is on that list where extra rinsing or extra jets will help with ?
The only thing that may be hard to rinse off is spider webs which to be honest if they are causing problems a web brush is what
you will need to save time.
Concentrate on a good scrubbing action to remove anything that needs to be removed and a quick zigzag down the glass will
be more than enough where rinsing is concerned.

[M & C Window Cleaning]

That's what I'm trying to avoid a box of bits.  I'm thinking I'm likely to use quite a bit more water with 4 x 2mm jets even if I'm rinsing faster but never used 1.2mm and wasn't sure if I would have a lot of splash back to produce the flow out of each jet that I'm used to. You get me?

I do get you a900.
However, if you listen only to what people say and don't try different things yourself there's a lot you won't learn. You'll find for example that sometimes what doesn't work for one works perfectly well for you and that sometimes the reverse is true as well. For example I avoided fan jets like the plague for years following several negative post about them when I first started reading on this forum. However, when I tried them I found them to work very well for me. I find I get a much better rinse with them. But I don't doubt that others find the reverse to be true

[nathankaye]

That's what I'm trying to avoid a box of bits.  I'm thinking I'm likely to use quite a bit more water with 4 x 2mm jets even if I'm rinsing faster but never used 1.2mm and wasn't sure if I would have a lot of splash back to produce the flow out of each jet that I'm used to. You get me?

I do get you a900.
However, if you listen only to what people say and don't try different things yourself there's a lot you won't learn. You'll find for example that sometimes what doesn't work for one works perfectly well for you and that sometimes the reverse is true as well. For example I avoided fan jets like the plague for years following several negative post about them when I first started reading on this forum. However, when I tried them I found them to work very well for me. I find I get a much better rinse with them. But I don't doubt that others find the reverse to be true

Well said.
I switched over onto wfp about 1 n half --2 yrs ago from many years of trad cleaning. I watched many wfp vids n researched it and worked with a chap once a wk for a number of months before i made the jump. I had sooo much info on it it hurt my small head,,,,,so much conflicting info. So i experimented to see what was best for me. I think ive found it but as i said on a previous post, theres still some ideas i want to try.
The best way to find out,,,simply try it, either it works for you or it doesnt....its all part of the learning curve

[a900]

Seank - use a reasonable flow with 2 jets so already do a quick zig zag down the window anyway. I'm 'not trying to rinse more  thoroughly' or 'put more water on the glass. I'm just tying to make that last step of 'a quick zig zag even faster'

M&c- I tried fan jets a couple of years back. Loved them on the glass but couldn't get on with the initial control on ge top edge. For me caused runs from the top edge. Especially on sash windows. if only I could have pencils run the top edge controlled with my mind that switched to fans for the rest of the window.    use the fans for facia and gutter cleans tho. Perfect in that application for me.

M & c & Nathankaye- I get ya it's a very subjective thing. like rinsing on or rinsing off. Cleaning the top frame so on. But no harm in asking opinions before I jump in with a £40 brush     but that's an entirely different subject

[M & C Window Cleaning]

You're absolutely right, a900, there's no harm in asking, in fact I've been reminded of something I'd forgotten in one of the replies re volume.

[nathankaye]

Absolutely nothing wrong with asking for opinions. All i was saying is that sometimes you can get alot of info and majority of it is conflicting. Sometimes its trial and error, if the 40 quid brush n jets dont work out, atleast you knoe for sure and keep em as spares or for render cleans or fascia cleans.

If you do go for it, hope it works for you and you'll have to post how u get on with it. 

[dd]

I use a 35cm brush with 4 x 2mm jets for some jobs. Glad I did not go for smaller jets. Do not find I use much more water. I do use 8mm hose on the reel which possibly helps.