[Og]

There's a lot to be said for working quickly. I just can't be bothered. Chatting to customers slows me down too.

8 weekly, how much time is spent driving between jobs? How long has it taken you to 'sculpt' the round?

[SeanK]

Sean, your 'good day' of £200 is someone else's very average day. Perhaps 8 weekly has given you his very average day. His good days could be £400-£600 you never know.

I understand what your saying but he did state one man doing £350 a day, but your right to get the one man turnover that 8weekly
has stated in the past a good day would need to be a least £600 a day with more good days than bad. lol.

[8weekly]

Sean, your 'good day' of £200 is someone else's very average day. Perhaps 8 weekly has given you his very average day. His good days could be £400-£600 you never know.

I understand what your saying but he did state one man doing £350 a day, but your right to get the one man turnover that 8weekly
has stated in the past a good day would need to be a least £600 a day with more good days than bad. lol.

Not really, we work in the rain, so there's never a need to catch up. You don't work in the rain do you as your customers might not like it. 

[Tom-01]

Round this neck of the woods and 8 weekly's patch £350 a day is easily achievable one guy working 9-3:30. It takes time and effort to get the round sorted at that level so its regular, but thats what running your own business is all about.

[jason lowsley]

Tell u what mate I have a franchise with something else at the moment and if they said oh u can't do this or that cause we are doing so we can have the lions share I would hand them the keys to the van and have my lawyer deal with it  nobody in their right mind would do what your proposing they would see it a mile off doesn't matter how much u explain to them that your getting the work for them  signing up for a franchise means that someone has just ironed out all the problems so u don't have to worry about it that's y u pay a royalty fee to them!!!!!!

[Smurf]

I would defo go tell em to do one too   

What happens all the time is "can you give me a price to do blaa blaa also. Then you have to say reluctantly "NOPE I can't"
How long will that last I wonder before you get rather peed off with Mr. cherry pickers franchise? Not long I'm betting.

[SeanK]

Tell u what mate I have a franchise with something else at the moment and if they said oh u can't do this or that cause we are doing so we can have the lions share I would hand them the keys to the van and have my lawyer deal with it  nobody in their right mind would do what your proposing they would see it a mile off doesn't matter how much u explain to them that your getting the work for them  signing up for a franchise means that someone has just ironed out all the problems so u don't have to worry about it that's y u pay a royalty fee to them!!!!!!

Unfortunately Jason the fact that there are people who are prepared to put up with franchising (in window cleaning) is proof
that there are people who will put up with anything.
From what Iv read from franchisers on here is they operate in affluent areas where people pay well, there's plenty of work and  they don't have much if anything in the way of competition, now if you cant build a round in an area like that without the need for somebody to hold your hand, well I wont say anymore encase I insult. lol.

[SeanK]

I would defo go tell em to do one too   

What happens all the time is "can you give me a price to do blaa blaa also. Then you have to say reluctantly "NOPE I can't"
How long will that last I wonder before you get rather peed off with Mr. cherry pickers franchise? Not long I'm betting.

From what I have read, you will have the franchisers name and contact details on your vehicle so most enquiries will go to them
anyway.

[8weekly]

Tell u what mate I have a franchise with something else at the moment and if they said oh u can't do this or that cause we are doing so we can have the lions share I would hand them the keys to the van and have my lawyer deal with it  nobody in their right mind would do what your proposing they would see it a mile off doesn't matter how much u explain to them that your getting the work for them  signing up for a franchise means that someone has just ironed out all the problems so u don't have to worry about it that's y u pay a royalty fee to them!!!!!!

Unfortunately Jason the fact that there are people who are prepared to put up with franchising (in window cleaning) is proof
that there are people who will put up with anything.
From what Iv read from franchisers on here is they operate in affluent areas where people pay well, there's plenty of work and  they don't have much if anything in the way of competition, now if you cant build a round in an area like that without the need for somebody to hold your hand, well I wont say anymore encase I insult. lol.

You're a very bitter man Sean.

[SeanK]

Tell u what mate I have a franchise with something else at the moment and if they said oh u can't do this or that cause we are doing so we can have the lions share I would hand them the keys to the van and have my lawyer deal with it  nobody in their right mind would do what your proposing they would see it a mile off doesn't matter how much u explain to them that your getting the work for them  signing up for a franchise means that someone has just ironed out all the problems so u don't have to worry about it that's y u pay a royalty fee to them!!!!!!

Unfortunately Jason the fact that there are people who are prepared to put up with franchising (in window cleaning) is proof
that there are people who will put up with anything.
From what Iv read from franchisers on here is they operate in affluent areas where people pay well, there's plenty of work and  they don't have much if anything in the way of competition, now if you cant build a round in an area like that without the need for somebody to hold your hand, well I wont say anymore encase I insult. lol.

You're a very bitter man Sean.

I was replying to Jason's quote that nobody in their right mind would put up with it by giving an example of what people will
put up with, its no more bitter than if Id had a go about somebody buying a used pole at more than its new price on fleebay.

[Smurf]

I would defo go tell em to do one too   

What happens all the time is "can you give me a price to do blaa blaa also. Then you have to say reluctantly "NOPE I can't"
How long will that last I wonder before you get rather peed off with Mr. cherry pickers franchise? Not long I'm betting.

From what I have read, you will have the franchisers name and contact details on your vehicle so most enquiries will go to them
anyway.

Just because you would drive around in a branded van that you even had to buy yourself in most cases you still run your own business don't you?  Or are you just a glorified subby being screwed over all the time with no say at all how you want to run your own business???
 

The problematic area in trying to franchise I see is who is stopping the franchisee  from gaining and taking on his/her own new work, add-on's and even offering new services etc that the franchiser is unaware of?  For obvious reasons they don't really want to tell the franchiser either  as would still expect a cut for doing bugger all.

[Nick Day]

Agree with what Smurf said, you can't stop them from doing things that you don't know about, I used to be involved with a franchised business and the things franchisees got up too behind your back you wouldn't believe!!

[Ian Lancaster]

The problematic area in trying to franchise I see is who is stopping the franchisee  from gaining and taking on his/her own new work, add-on's and even offering new services etc that the franchiser is unaware of?  For obvious reasons they don't really want to tell the franchiser either  as would still expect a cut for doing bugger all.

Don't exactly the same things happen when you're employing?

[Soupy]

The problematic area in trying to franchise I see is who is stopping the franchisee  from gaining and taking on his/her own new work, add-on's and even offering new services etc that the franchiser is unaware of?  For obvious reasons they don't really want to tell the franchiser either  as would still expect a cut for doing bugger all.

Don't exactly the same things happen when you're employing?

Of course. You do have more control over an employee though. If you start having disaplinary meetings with a franchisee they are not really a franchisee. Also, it's much easier to replace an employee if you catch them doing something that you're not happy with.

[Nick Day]

Franchising is great route to take. The problem that I see on here is a complete lack of understanding on what franchising is.
I can see no difference between drain cleaning and window cleaning, Dyno-0Rod sold for £49 million.
I read the posts from Franchisors and I always assume that they are misleading you, I am beginning to wonder.
I spent a lot of money on personal one to one advice from a major Franchise adviser (£15,000).
As for this concept of "doing work on the side",  walk ups?? and ownership of the work.......I have never heard of anything so ridiculous!!!!

[Frankybadboy]

8 weekly has been in the game many years,

he hasnt been in it that long nick 

[8weekly]

8 weekly has been in the game many years,

he hasnt been in it that long nick 

Long enough.