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Dave Willis

Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2015, 08:19:14 pm »
10 mins with mine today. Hmmmm very strange. The pad is much shorter than the blade which seems odd  ??? however, it does seem to work reasonably well - doesn't close out fully though.

Dave Willis

Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2015, 08:42:15 pm »
Ten more minutes and the rubber is pulling out of the plastic clip on one end, the rubber drags like crazy where the pad is too short.

Another pile of expensive crap by the looks of things.  ::)roll

lal

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2015, 08:53:39 pm »
 Hi Dave, got mine yesterday, have only used it for about 15 minutes at home, having never used a wagtail before, its quite
 different to using a fixed squeegee, I've watched a couple of videos by Wagga whose used wagtails for years, he says you have
to change your technique and give it time to get the hang of it, but initially i quite like it until i get the hang of it.

Lal

Dave Willis

Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2015, 09:04:35 pm »
Yes, I've got other wagtails too but tonight a) I'm tired and b) this seems very similar to the liquidator crap where I've already had to heat and pinch the plastic bodge clip tighter. Tomorrows another day.

PS. mine is nothing like the one in Marks Video - the pad is at least a cm shorter than the blade at each end.



lal

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2015, 09:22:52 pm »
Yes, I've got other wagtails too but tonight a) I'm tired and b) this seems very similar to the liquidator crap where I've already had to heat and pinch the plastic bodge clip tighter. Tomorrows another day.
 
Sorry Dave i overlooked that you had used wagtails before, i couldn't get on with the Liquidator either and binned it, so i
thought i would give the precision glide ago, anything to save time doing insides, the way i look at it, if you don't try these
gismos you will never know if they work for you or not.

Lal

Dave Willis

Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2015, 09:28:09 pm »
Does yours look like my pic?

lal

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2015, 09:48:48 pm »
Does yours look like my pic?

Yes Dave, mines identical to yours in your photo, the pad on mine is flush with the blade the other end, but short like yours the other end, definitely different to Mark Monroes in his video.

Dave Willis

Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2015, 09:53:11 pm »
Mine's short like that both sides so it drags because the glass is dry.

lal

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2015, 10:02:43 pm »

 I've  just pulled the pad with with both hands each end gently, and it has stretched, fits perfect now, will probably shrink again
 when wet maybe.

kempy

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2015, 08:37:19 am »
I like it , but I do seem to be not putting enough water onto the glass .
Also as Dave , it's too short is the Strip .

Think I will use my traditional squeege and applicator

stevon

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2015, 08:55:32 am »
change the rubber straight away,its to hard.use a soft rubber &yes it dries out quickly.carry an empty washing up liquid bottle by your side(wagga style)with your chioice of liquid.pure water,ecover ,vinegar or flash.the rubber sticks out to far on the ends -so cut it flush.with all these tools coming out you have to modify these some how ???then they tell you its your tecnique ???

lal

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2015, 09:53:23 am »
change the rubber straight away,its to hard.use a soft rubber &yes it dries out quickly.carry an empty washing up liquid bottle by your side(wagga style)with your chioice of liquid.pure water,ecover ,vinegar or flash.the rubber sticks out to far on the ends -so cut it flush.with all these tools coming out you have to modify these some how ???then they tell you its your tecnique ???

Hi Stevon, thanks for your advice, what make of rubber are you using, how are you getting on with the Precision Glide, whats your
opinion of it, sorry about all the questions, I'm just curious and like to learn from others.

Regards
Lal

H MAN

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2015, 10:48:02 am »
It seems that everyone has there way to dog-ear there squeegee channels including myself.
 They all work!
 Just that the was Moerman ready to go but there is two other manufactures also jumped on the band wagon
 Unger, Wagtail.
 Think in the end it is up to the person using it.
 You ether like it or you don't.
 If you are a DIY person then try some of dog-earing ideas that are posted up on YouTube.

Dave Willis

Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2015, 01:38:59 pm »
Used it today several times - as a one pass tool I think it's brilliant. The design is a bit shoddy but I do quite like it.

ChumBucket

Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2015, 02:24:31 pm »
The original Wagtail Flipper has never been improved upon IMO. However, even then you have to modify, dog ear the ends slightly & make your own pads. I make my own pads from Lidl floor mop pads- much better than the wagtail ones + I cut them in a shape which means the soap just misses the edges & with slightly angled cut rubber ends (liquidator style) means no detailing. For heavily soiled windows I have a Ettorre  porcupine sleeve cut to fit the wagtail- these eat through anything with ease but are a little thicker than the other ones which close out better. I also like how the pad is held further back on the original flipper & with proper clips- this helps with closing out too. :)

H MAN

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2015, 02:35:19 pm »
Yes found they work great first off (the squeegee itself) but over time you have problems with the disc wearing at the pivot point.
Which IMO is the weak point on this squeegee and also never been rectified.
Plus a few other small modification to make this work better.
 

ChumBucket

Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2015, 02:46:50 pm »
Yes found they work great first off (the squeegee itself) but over time you have problems with the disc wearing at the pivot point.
Which IMO is the weak point on this squeegee and also never been rectified.
Plus a few other small modification to make this work better.

Yes mine is a little worn now but after approx 6 or 7 years use @ 20-odd quid I don't think anyone could complain!! ;D I've also replaced the rivets which hold the handle to the channel with small nuts/bolts- as these worn rivets are a significant source of wear/play in the unit as it ages.
 I hate to see development just for the sake of it, wagtail now have a load of different squeegees & none of them come with a clear explanation of what each one achieves over another. Development usually takes things forward, wagtail seem to have retailed all their own trial & error experiments. 

Dave Willis

Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2015, 03:09:17 pm »
The thing with this new one is that it really is a one pass tool provided the glass is lightly soiled - no need to soap up first. If you use a foamy solution then any missed sections can be collected again with another pass of the blade. The design is madness, with clips on top of clips with the microfibre pad section not matching the blade section on mine but when it works as in Marks video then it's very good.

H MAN

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2015, 03:11:33 pm »

Yes mine is a little worn now but after approx 6 or 7 years use @ 20-odd quid I don't think anyone could complain!! ;D I've also replaced the rivets which hold the handle to the channel with small nuts/bolts- as these worn rivets are a significant source of wear/play in the unit as it ages.
 I hate to see development just for the sake of it, wagtail now have a load of different squeegees & none of them come with a clear explanation of what each one achieves over another. Development usually takes things forward, wagtail seem to have retailed all their own trial & error experiments.
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Yes you have it right only once they sent me a new type of squeegee to see what thought of it.
Well did just that  actually it was to with pivot point explained the problem.
Got properly told off said that would cost to much!!  :o
Since then as most people would know fixed those very simple problems and put that up on You Tube.
Now have completely DIY squeegee that was built mostly to the way I use it.

rosskesava

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Re: Precision Glide by wagtail New
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2015, 06:47:21 pm »
I was thinking of giving the Wagtail Glide a try as I regularly do the insides of quite a few shop windows and some have very limited space in which to change over the applicator to a squeegee when using a pole.

Window Cleaning Warehouse have the Wagtail Glide but don't sell the pole - as far as I can tell. Cleaning Spot sell Wagtail stuff including the pole but not the Wagtail Glide.

I don't want to pay two lots of delivery charges and Cleaning Spot deliveries when ever I order are erratic at best.

Also Window Cleaning Warehouse are still advertising 'pre order'. I don't want pre order, I want to order it and know when it will be arriving.

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