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Matt.

  • Posts: 1836
Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2015, 03:22:01 pm »
Tadgh, am not knocking urs mate, I have never tried them. I had scrims for 15 years and would only use them for the frames really, when I tried the unger ones I was well impressed I bought a crap load to use for detailing.

I work in from all the frames and don't feel detailing is needed on 90% of the jobs but I have some extremely important jobs that I insist on detailing, unger are fantastic as even with the sun beaming in they leave no marks what so ever....... I even had nice comments made regarding work from sky tv presenters who set up the studios  ;D ( and somewhere have pics of Andy grey off sky before he got sacked trying his hand at my work haha ) but serious they are good. Only good when there dry tho wen wet as with anything will leave a mark.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2015, 07:07:12 pm »
Tadgh, am not knocking urs mate, I have never tried them. I had scrims for 15 years and would only use them for the frames really, when I tried the unger ones I was well impressed I bought a crap load to use for detailing.

I work in from all the frames and don't feel detailing is needed on 90% of the jobs but I have some extremely important jobs that I insist on detailing, unger are fantastic as even with the sun beaming in they leave no marks what so ever....... I even had nice comments made regarding work from sky tv presenters who set up the studios  ;D ( and somewhere have pics of Andy grey off sky before he got sacked trying his hand at my work haha ) but serious they are good. Only good when there dry tho wen wet as with anything will leave a mark.
  Hi Matty, yes Unger do have some good microfiber for cleaning glass, but as i was saying and to the best of my knowledge they don't promote authentic high performance detailing microfiber cloths for glass, with proper HPD cloths the results achievable on the glass are spectacular.  Tadgh

Don Kee

  • Posts: 4906
Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2015, 07:42:40 pm »
Get this long awaited website sorted then Tadgh and I'll gladly buy some to try them out  :)
I'm not ringing offices though, I'm not a big fan of chatting to the mrs, let alone ringing a salesperson up!!!

paulben

  • Posts: 1041
Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2015, 11:22:25 am »
Hello,

I cleaned M & S daily for twenty five years, Next, Debenhams. McDonalds, Mothercare   and numerous others. It is only since I came on here I've read about detailing etc. and seen all sorts of alterations to squeegees.
Squeegees were invented I believe in about 1928, millions upon millions of square meters have been cleaned.
Why the need for any of the detailing and alterations to squeegees.
  Nick, no matter how experienced or skilled you are with a squeegee its just not possible to remove all the moisture from corners and edges, the only way to achieve optimal results is to use authentic glass detailing cloths, as we all know for general window cleaning you don't need to go to the extent of detailing the glass, when it comes to the likes of  high end retailers, jewellers,opticans, etc, they are prepared to pay extra when you educate or demonstrate to them the end results which are achievable, i will even add that high end retailers are more than willing to pay for detailing their interior glass and mirror surfaces (especially their glass presentation cases) which is an add on that is widely untapped by many window cleaners, just to share some of my thoughts on detailing.


So you charge extra to do a proper job .I would show you the door
Do not steal the government hates competition

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2015, 12:19:20 pm »
Hello,

I cleaned M & S daily for twenty five years, Next, Debenhams. McDonalds, Mothercare   and numerous others. It is only since I came on here I've read about detailing etc. and seen all sorts of alterations to squeegees.
Squeegees were invented I believe in about 1928, millions upon millions of square meters have been cleaned.
Why the need for any of the detailing and alterations to squeegees.
  Nick, no matter how experienced or skilled you are with a squeegee its just not possible to remove all the moisture from corners and edges, the only way to achieve optimal results is to use authentic glass detailing cloths, as we all know for general window cleaning you don't need to go to the extent of detailing the glass, when it comes to the likes of  high end retailers, jewellers,opticans, etc, they are prepared to pay extra when you educate or demonstrate to them the end results which are achievable, i will even add that high end retailers are more than willing to pay for detailing their interior glass and mirror surfaces (especially their glass presentation cases) which is an add on that is widely untapped by many window cleaners, just to share some of my thoughts on detailing.


So you charge extra to do a proper job .I would show you the door
  Hi Paul, this is not about doing a proper job i already said that as we all know you don't need to go to the extent of detailing the glass on most jobs,  i was trying to explain that there is a huge difference in quality and performance between microfiber cloths for cleaning glass and microfiber cloths for detailing glass, if you use both types already Paul you will know the difference.

SeanK

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2015, 12:47:52 pm »
Get this long awaited website sorted then Tadgh and I'll gladly buy some to try them out  :)
I'm not ringing offices though, I'm not a big fan of chatting to the mrs, let alone ringing a salesperson up!!!

Totally agree, Tadgh has a few items that I would gladly give a try but I cant be bothered buying products over the phone.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2015, 12:49:47 pm »
Get this long awaited website sorted then Tadgh and I'll gladly buy some to try them out  :)
I'm not ringing offices though, I'm not a big fan of chatting to the mrs, let alone ringing a salesperson up!!!
Hi Don, yes i'm with you about our website, but you should be able to source good quality microfiber detailing cloths online from other suppliers, i know that auto detailers swear by HPD cloths for achieving the perfect finish for the  glass on their clients high end motors.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2015, 03:48:00 pm »
Get this long awaited website sorted then Tadgh and I'll gladly buy some to try them out  :)
I'm not ringing offices though, I'm not a big fan of chatting to the mrs, let alone ringing a salesperson up!!!

Totally agree, Tadgh has a few items that I would gladly give a try but I cant be bothered buying products over the phone.
  Hi Sean, sorry we were nearly there but something else came up which  should work out better for us in the long term, so i will let you know as soon as we have a shopping cart up,  cheers Tadgh

Darren O

  • Posts: 1322
Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2015, 06:15:04 pm »
In the summer I use microfiber for both detailing and buffing in the winter I tend to use scrims for detailing as microfiber gets wet to easy.

dazmond

  • Posts: 24453
Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2015, 09:59:36 pm »
i still have some old large unger microwipes but after a few years they lose their absorbency.i mainly use unger "grade A" pre-washed scrims  now.scrims are much better to use on a damp day(like today)

i also remember the thick irish linen i use to buy by the yard  off a massive roll from a local hardware store before it shut down after  30+ years of trading.they took ages to "break in" but when they did they lasted ages even "ragging" all my round with no squeegeeing whatsoever! :)
price higher/work harder!

Smurf

  • Posts: 8538
Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2015, 10:29:51 pm »
I'm happy with my Paragon fishscale cloths and using liquidator channels now reduce detailing to next too nothing.


 

Phil J

  • Posts: 643
Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2015, 06:59:12 am »
Morning Tadgh,
Do you have a price for your microfibers?
Thanks, phil

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2015, 11:13:00 am »
Morning Tadgh,
Do you have a price for your microfibers?
Thanks, phil
  Hi Phil, if you send an email to info@jskcleaning.ie i can forward you on the information.  Tadgh

Phil J

  • Posts: 643
Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2015, 12:45:32 pm »
Will do!!!

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2015, 11:56:10 pm »
Hi Guys, just to share if it can be of benefit to anyone who wants to offer detailing services on interior surfaces for any high end retailers, we also promote a product called Beyond-Kleen which is an ideal detailing product for glass,mirrors,crystal,screens,lighting fixtures and fittings, security camera lenses,glass presentation cases, etc.   Beyond-Kleen contains no ipa,ammonia,solvents, and is an all-in-one product to clean shine and protect the above mentioned surfaces, if used in combination with microfiber HPD cloths the retailers will be blown away with the results achievable,  Tadgh

Rich Wilts

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2015, 08:42:54 am »
Why the need for any of the detailing and alterations to squeegees.

Because most window cleans will benefit from some attention to detail.

Matt.

  • Posts: 1836
Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2015, 03:34:36 pm »
Hi Guys, just to share if it can be of benefit to anyone who wants to offer detailing services on interior surfaces for any high end retailers, we also promote a product called Beyond-Kleen which is an ideal detailing product for glass,mirrors,crystal,screens,lighting fixtures and fittings, security camera lenses,glass presentation cases, etc.   Beyond-Kleen contains no ipa,ammonia,solvents, and is an all-in-one product to clean shine and protect the above mentioned surfaces, if used in combination with microfiber HPD cloths the retailers will be blown away with the results achievable,  Tadgh

Hello Tadgh, my email is
mattlogan@btinternet.com

Send over some info on what products maybe beneficial to me, I have a few cleaning contracts and do a hell of a lot of window cleaning.

Thanks
Matt

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2015, 06:48:44 pm »
Hi Guys, just to share if it can be of benefit to anyone who wants to offer detailing services on interior surfaces for any high end retailers, we also promote a product called Beyond-Kleen which is an ideal detailing product for glass,mirrors,crystal,screens,lighting fixtures and fittings, security camera lenses,glass presentation cases, etc.   Beyond-Kleen contains no ipa,ammonia,solvents, and is an all-in-one product to clean shine and protect the above mentioned surfaces, if used in combination with microfiber HPD cloths the retailers will be blown away with the results achievable,  Tadgh

Hello Tadgh, my email is
mattlogan@btinternet.com

Send over some info on what products maybe beneficial to me, I have a few cleaning contracts and do a hell of a lot of window cleaning.

Thanks
Matt
  Cheers Matt, will do kind regards Tadgh

Plankton

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Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim?
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2015, 10:11:10 pm »
I bought micro fibres from the wifes cousins shop which is Ayrshires equivalent to Home Bargains (although they sell some good stuff) as I was ordering Ninja costumes for the kids  ::)roll so it bulked it up for free delivery!
Anyway 280gsm so not as good as Tadgh's 320gsm but for around 50-60 pence each they seem pretty good.
I agree with the telephone ordering, I like to analyse a product before ordering.

Tadgh O Shea

Re: Trad Cleaners, Microfibre or Scrim? New
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2015, 10:40:48 pm »
I bought micro fibres from the wifes cousins shop which is Ayrshires equivalent to Home Bargains (although they sell some good stuff) as I was ordering Ninja costumes for the kids  ::)roll so it bulked it up for free delivery!
Anyway 280gsm so not as good as Tadgh's 320gsm but for around 50-60 pence each they seem pretty good.
I agree with the telephone ordering, I like to analyse a product before ordering.
  Hi Alan, when it comes to microfiber for cleaning glass don't judge quality by the gsm (grams per square meter)  the quality and performance comes from the type and percentage of yarn and the way its woven, for example if you want a serious microfiber cloth for quality and performance when detailing glass/mirrors you can have a 150gsm microfiber detailing glass cloth which would be far superior in quality and performance than using a 340gsm microfiber glass cleaning cloth, just to share some of my experience of using different types of microfiber technology over the years, hope this may be of benefit for anyone looking to purchase microfiber cleaning/detailing cloths online.   Tadgh