[Dave Willis]

What difference does this make?    http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/swivel-brush-socket.html

[Jonny 87]

What difference does this make?    http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/swivel-brush-socket.html

I was going to ask the same thing!

Im thinking a more smooth swivel action?

[Ian101]

thought you were talking about Richy Wilts and his office chair 

[DeLuce]

Pretty similar to the original really. Doesn't seem to be as much play in them, unless that's because mine was particularly knackered and worn. Which is why I bought it.

[ChumBucket]

What difference does this make?    http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/swivel-brush-socket.html

It allows you to bypass the quick-loq or threaded part of the other swivels. It basically brings the swivel joint closer to the brush stock which I've heard a few people mention in the past would make for a better swivel action. However, I've tried it & found no noticeable difference over any of the other existing swivels. You would also be able to fit this part to any brush you wished to.

[DeLuce]

What difference does this make?    http://gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/swivel-brush-socket.html

It allows you to bypass the quick-loq or threaded part of the other swivels. It basically brings the swivel joint closer to the brush stock which I've heard a few people mention in the past would make for a better swivel action. However, I've tried it & found no noticeable difference over any of the other existing swivels. You would also be able to fit this part to any brush you wished to.

^Far more comprehensive answer than mine. I couldn't remember what the old one looked like and couldn't be bothered going out to the van to check 

[Positivity]

I notice only the quick lok type are listed here anyone know if you can still get the old type taper screw ones?

[dai]

I have been a swivel devotee since I started WFP. The best for me was a converted Stanley paint pad handle that fits straight onto  a Harris pole.
The fist commercial swivels all shared the same fault, the pivot point was too far from the brush stock making control difficult. After raising this with Alex he sent me some proto types to try, I sent him one of my stanley conversions and a prototype of my own. Alex's success in this business comes from listning to fellow window cleaners and what their needs were. The latest Gardiner swivel is perfect.
I would hate to try and work without a swivel, at a flick of the wrist I can clean the glass either with the brush staight or on it's side [ handy for those tiny windows that are not as wide as the brush] And of course swivels are brilliant for cleaning over the coservatory roofs while standing at the side.

[dai]

I notice only the quick lok type are listed here anyone know if you can still get the old type taper screw ones?
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Alex had them too.]

[Dave Willis]

I too use Gardiners swivels and never work without one on glass. I've ordered the part above to see if it feels any different to their normal fitting. Haven't tried the quick loc stuff yet - might convert to it this year.

[Alex Gardiner]

I have been a swivel devotee since I started WFP. The best for me was a converted Stanley paint pad handle that fits straight onto  a Harris pole.
The fist commercial swivels all shared the same fault, the pivot point was too far from the brush stock making control difficult. After raising this with Alex he sent me some proto types to try, I sent him one of my stanley conversions and a prototype of my own. Alex's success in this business comes from listning to fellow window cleaners and what their needs were. The latest Gardiner swivel is perfect.
I would hate to try and work without a swivel, at a flick of the wrist I can clean the glass either with the brush staight or on it's side [ handy for those tiny windows that are not as wide as the brush] And of course swivels are brilliant for cleaning over the coservatory roofs while standing at the side.

Not being a swivel user myself it was essential to be guided by those with experience using them.  Glad we got there in the end!

[mufcglen]

as a regular user of a swivel i fitted a new one i ordered the other day to a spare pole but forgot to tighten the screw as i like them quite stiff it was a right pain on the sills as i like to brush across them and the brush just pivots right round, dont understand how some guys can work with them that loose but i love mine and wouldnt be without it.

[dai]

You can do the sills too with a free swivel. Place your brush flat on the sill, and twist the pole slightly to the right or left, if the brush is flat on the sill it cant swivel. Just keep practicing and it will come.

[duncan h]

I tried it when first started out. Couldn't get on with the lack of control. I may try it again one day, but at present I like as little as possible on the end of my pole

[hasti]

I have been a swivel devotee since I started WFP. The best for me was a converted Stanley paint pad handle that fits straight onto  a Harris pole.
The fist commercial swivels all shared the same fault, the pivot point was too far from the brush stock making control difficult. After raising this with Alex he sent me some proto types to try, I sent him one of my stanley conversions and a prototype of my own. Alex's success in this business comes from listning to fellow window cleaners and what their needs were. The latest Gardiner swivel is perfect.
I would hate to try and work without a swivel, at a flick of the wrist I can clean the glass either with the brush staight or on it's side [ handy for those tiny windows that are not as wide as the brush] And of course swivels are brilliant for cleaning over the coservatory roofs while standing at the side.

Not being a swivel user myself it was essential to be guided by those with experience using them.  Glad we got there in the end!

Alex do you have a video for this ?