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Carl2009

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2014, 08:28:14 pm »

Funny thing is when people describe a bad customer they dont put on here 'i had a white person today that was a total arse' in fact no reference to there background or skin colour will get made... But your on here kicking off because you didnt like the fact someone wasnt happy you've stereotyped a whole nationality (although i'd imagine you dont actually even KNOW where there from)
I've met muppets from all cultures, doesnt mean there whole race is the same....

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I'd suggest, robertphil, that if you've had problems with 20 or 30 Asian households then you are the problem, not the custies. Just a thought.

Carl2009

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2014, 08:30:54 pm »
I think you'll find 'injun' was originally a term used in America to describe the Natives so how you've figured it now covers asians/indians/pakistanis etc is elluding me?

 (although i'd imagine you dont actually even KNOW where there from)


  well   nobody uses the word "ethnic"  unless  describing a rug ,so what word would you use ?

Take your pick - Asian or Indian, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Sri Lankan if you know their nationality. "Injun" is perjorative.

G Griffin

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2014, 08:38:33 pm »
It's like the use of the word 'them'. Not only are you talking about a race of people in a generalising way, you're also implying that 'they' are different to 'us (?)'.
That's where problems start. You are pre-judging someone, putting 'problems' down to their race or both.
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Don Kee

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2014, 08:42:26 pm »
I think you'll find 'injun' was originally a term used in America to describe the Natives so how you've figured it now covers asians/indians/pakistanis etc is elluding me?

 (although i'd imagine you dont actually even KNOW where there from)


 well   nobody uses the word "ethnic"  unless  describing a rug ,so what word would you use ?


Eh??
Ok you dont want to use 'ethnic', but you're using a word that is used to describe people on the total opposite side of the world to the people you mean.
'Injun' used in the wild west mate, to describe Native indians....you've got the wrong indians....

Collins
World English Dictionary
Injun  (ˈɪndʒən)
 
— n
1.   ( US ) an informal or dialect word for (American) Indian
2.   slang  ( interjection ) honest Injun  genuinely; really

Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition
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Plenty of other words, Asian, Pakistani, Indian.....(carl2009 has named a few) but if you're going to try and be clever and stereotype, at least use the right terminology...

robertphil

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2014, 08:47:33 pm »
 


whatabout that bloke who commented he had a few  round in east london 1 was chock full  it was Asian/indian , when he decided to sell up his rounds he couldnt give it away

 no no its me who has the problem,i hold my hands up, its a fair cop guv, im big enough to admit it Could be me -   i tried, god knows i tried  

keyser soze

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2014, 08:50:04 pm »
 i don't get offended being labeled a brit or limey or a pom. personnaly i don't like working for our asian cousins .seem to mess you about a bit

gary999

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2014, 08:52:39 pm »
Ive got a few indian/pakistani customers,good as gold i even
get a nice tip off most of them at xmas

G Griffin

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2014, 08:54:05 pm »



whatabout that bloke who commented he had a few  round in east london 1 was chock full  it was Asian/indian , when he decided to sell up his rounds he couldnt give it away

 no no its me who has the problem,i hold my hands up, its a fair cop guv, im big enough to admit it Could be me -   i tried, god knows i tried  
Grassing someone else up doesn't mean you're any less wrong  ;D.
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Window Lickers

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired New
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2014, 08:58:28 pm »


last week i got a 5 day ban for "telling it as it is" of a run in i had with an  injun [no disrespect in using  that term  , its a term covering folk from many countries of that region,what would u prefer "ethnic? ]
Anyway what i wrote was that she was a whole lot of time wasting  trouble.  in writing that i was informing other trade members to be alert to potential problems

  if i read something  window cleaning related about anybody /or of a faulty product/ dickey van story / i store it in my noggin  and thats what i love about forums , its the insider gossip  that you just cant buy.
 
Sure ,anybodys view might be considered bias , but its still of value  to the members  and can be ignored if it doesnt apply

lets not hold back on info  for fear of  insult/ban when info really does benefit all members

maybe i will be banned again now , or challenged off air .  who knows

 

But you are a muppet and everyone knows it. It was only a matter of time before you got booted.
Liberace's ex looking to meet well built men for cottaging meets.

rosskesava

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2014, 09:01:03 pm »
There are cultural differences between different races and sometimes those differences can be interpreted as 'them' being a PITA or somehow 'wrong'.

Generally, I won't clean the windows of Bangladeshi or Pakistani customers not because of their race, but because culturally, after the haggle over the price, they tend to always try to get extra for their money and I don't want that haggle every visit.

That doesn't make them wrong and it doesn't make me racist. I've dumped 'English' customers for doing the same but generally, the English culture is not to do that.
Just chant..... Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. It's beats chanting Tory Tory or Labour Labour.

tlwcs

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2014, 09:38:28 pm »
I had a crap customer, you know the sort, always cooking curry.
Any better?  ;D

G Griffin

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2014, 10:48:12 pm »
Customers are people and we have to deal with people in this job. It's a service industry.
They can be black, white, male, female, gay, straight etc. etc. It's best to treat each as an individual and  all the same.
Treating people well is as important as treating their glass.
You don't have to but it helps.
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davids3511

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2014, 10:52:00 pm »
Personally I don't take on Irish customers between 20 and 40 anymore. I find they are more trouble then they are worth when it comes to paying for services rendered. Does that make me racist?

G Griffin

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2014, 10:58:32 pm »
Personally I don't take on Irish customers between 20 and 40 anymore. I find they are more trouble then they are worth when it comes to paying for services rendered. Does that make me racist?
No, ageist.
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Perfect Windows

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2014, 11:02:05 pm »
Personally I don't take on Irish customers between 20 and 40 anymore. I find they are more trouble then they are worth when it comes to paying for services rendered. Does that make me racist?

I don't take on gay female Isle of Man born customers between the ages of 87 and 89 who have a wooden leg. I find them too much trouble when it comes to them "paying in kind".

Does that make me an everythingist?

Vin

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Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2014, 11:07:09 pm »
I can't stand Gypos, tax avoiding, con artists, thieving scum! I stand by that regardless of what anyone says. ;)

Wouldn't trust a dirty Gypo as far as I could throw one.

Tom White

Re: dirty issues-should always be aired
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2014, 11:12:55 pm »
i don't get offended being labeled a brit or limey or a pom.

You don't have to be, however those words don't carry the same cultural baggage as other words.  I haven't heard of skin-heads going 'limey-bashing' for example.

But yet again, I'm going to lock this topic.  If you think something could be racist, just don't post it; it's simple.

And I'm getting a bit bored with this, to be honest.  My banning finger is getting a bit twitchy.  Stick to window cleaning, avoid the racist comments.  It's not difficult.

Please, and I'm asking you nicely, do not start another post on this topic.  If you don't like that, you know where the door is.