[Supreme clean window cleaning]

Hello I've just got a new van it's a ford transit 260ps limited 2012 I don't under stand the payload it say front 1450kg and 1475kg rear what is the weight I can carry thanks

[Clever Forum Name]

Just under 800kg. Should be ok for a 400L tank

[Craig downey]

Add them both together, 1450 +1450 that is total weight of van once fully loaded. So you need to weight the van with you in it, plus fuel, the difference is what you can carry

[Clever Forum Name]

A T260 should me a total GVW of 2600kg

[dannymack]

I
Heard there's a law that you can't carry around a 1000L tank !!!
Not sure how true this is !!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧👀

[Simon Mess]

Add them both together, 1450 +1450 that is total weight of van once fully loaded. So you need to weight the van with you in it, plus fuel, the difference is what you can carry

I think this would be the maximum weight allowable for EACH axle, but not together as this would clearly be more than the 2600kg gvw.

Payloads are a very touchy subject on here, but as far as it goes, i would say if you need a transit sized van there is no point in getting a 260, the payload is just too small. Get at least a 300, but a 330 will give most options for tank size. IMO the biggest tank you could legally get away with in a 260 would be 400l, and seeing as you could put that in a connect 230, there wouldn't be much point.

[Oliver @ GrippaTank]

Good Morning,

If you have the vehicle reg and message me or email to enquiries@grippatank.co.uk we can do an exact search for the payload.

We are working on a website which will enable anyone to check payloads if you have the vehicle reg. Details to follow.

[Simon Mess]

Good Morning,

If you have the vehicle reg and message me or email to enquiries@grippatank.co.uk we can do an exact search for the payload.

We are working on a website which will enable anyone to check payloads if you have the vehicle reg. Details to follow.

You can already check your vans payload on parkers website, all you need to know is which model you have, and lets face it, you should!.

But, so as you know supreme, the payload for a transit 260 swb low roof limited, is 897kg. If you are careful, and are a solo operator, you can probably just about get away with a 500l tank.

But honestly, you seem to have gone about this back to front!. What you should have done is decide what size of tank you need, from this you find out how big a payload you need and from this you find out which vans are best suited.

[Oliver @ GrippaTank]

You can already check your vans payload on parkers website, all you need to know is which model you have, and lets face it, you should!.

But, so as you know supreme, the payload for a transit 260 swb low roof limited, is 897kg. If you are careful, and are a solo operator, you can probably just about get away with a 500l tank.

But honestly, you seem to have gone about this back to front!. What you should have done is decide what size of tank you need, from this you find out how big a payload you need and from this you find out which vans are best suited.

Hi Simon,

Indeed - the parkers website also has this information - but as you quite rightly say, you need to be clear on what you are looking for due to the many various subtle differences in model variants. We find by checking by vehicle reg, this gives you the definitive answer in a click of a button, especially if you are unsure of the exact variant of your vehicle. Indeed, each variant payload can occasionally also vary depending on year of the vehicle.

[Simon Mess]

Thing is, finding out the payload is relatively easy, but finding out how much you can safely carry is an entirely different prospect. For which you really need to speak to people on here who have experienced the alarming reality, i.e, who have been on a weighbridge with their van!.

I dont know what grippa tank's policy is, but i have read posts on here of guys who have had systems 'professionally' installed, but the end result exceeds the gvw. When i took my transit connect over a customers weighbridge i got a real shock to see i was 40kg under my gvw. 500l tank, 900kg payload?!. A post recently on here had a guy with a vivaro/trafic/primastar (dont remember which) going on a weighbridge with a 650l tank and finding the reading was 2960kg. That van was the 2700kg version(!), but at the same time i have read posts on here from guys with one of these vans who are in the process of, or already have fitted 800-850l tanks. Another post had someone with a vauxhall combo, the payload was just under 800kg, he had a 350l tank and the weighbridge reading put him only 90kg under gvw.

[Spruce]

Thing is, finding out the payload is relatively easy, but finding out how much you can safely carry is an entirely different prospect. For which you really need to speak to people on here who have experienced the alarming reality, i.e, who have been on a weighbridge with their van!.

I dont know what grippa tank's policy is, but i have read posts on here of guys who have had systems 'professionally' installed, but the end result exceeds the gvw. When i took my transit connect over a customers weighbridge i got a real shock to see i was 40kg under my gvw. 500l tank, 900kg payload?!. A post recently on here had a guy with a vivaro/trafic/primastar (dont remember which) going on a weighbridge with a 650l tank and finding the reading was 2960kg. That van was the 2700kg version(!), but at the same time i have read posts on here from guys with one of these vans who are in the process of, or already have fitted 800-850l tanks. Another post had someone with a vauxhall combo, the payload was just under 800kg, he had a 350l tank and the weighbridge reading put him only 90kg under gvw.

The other issue is exactly where to put that tank. Put it too far forward or too far back can easily overload an axle even if you are with the payload.

[Simon Mess]

Thing is, finding out the payload is relatively easy, but finding out how much you can safely carry is an entirely different prospect. For which you really need to speak to people on here who have experienced the alarming reality, i.e, who have been on a weighbridge with their van!.

I dont know what grippa tank's policy is, but i have read posts on here of guys who have had systems 'professionally' installed, but the end result exceeds the gvw. When i took my transit connect over a customers weighbridge i got a real shock to see i was 40kg under my gvw. 500l tank, 900kg payload?!. A post recently on here had a guy with a vivaro/trafic/primastar (dont remember which) going on a weighbridge with a 650l tank and finding the reading was 2960kg. That van was the 2700kg version(!), but at the same time i have read posts on here from guys with one of these vans who are in the process of, or already have fitted 800-850l tanks. Another post had someone with a vauxhall combo, the payload was just under 800kg, he had a 350l tank and the weighbridge reading put him only 90kg under gvw.

The other issue is exactly where to put that tank. Put it too far forward or too far back can easily overload an axle even if you are with the payload.

Very true, and this is one of the reasons i prefer flat tanks, as they spread the weight better. An upright tank focuses all the weight on a much smaller footprint, so as well as being potentially much more unstable, you do need to think even more carefully about exactly where to position it so as not to overload either axle.

[Oliver @ GrippaTank]

Very valid points being made here by Simon and Spruce.

The new website calculator aims to take into consideration the GVW as well as the PAYLOAD by checking the DVLA database. However, you are quite right - its not just a case of maths. Talking to the guys on here who have experience of various system and vehicle setups also is very important.

Lets say a customer has a payload of 900kg and the van has three staff at all times.

Often customers forget that it is not just a case of simply subtracting the weight of your system from the payload. I.e It simply doesn't work that 900kg payload - 500kg tank weight = 400kg left over.

The guidance for payload (which can be found in the t&c's of most vehicle brochures) reminds you to remove the weight of any passengers and 10% of the fuel from your calculations. So two passengers - strapping young window cleaners each at 100kg each with a further 10kg of fuel allowance suddenly mean that your payload of 900kg, minus 500kg system, minus 210kg passengers and fuel allowance, you are now at 190kg. What about the reels, the filters, the poles, the gutter vacuum, the pressure washer... etc etc...? Suddenly, your looking at being overweight.

What about the vehicle itself? The design of the system? A standard upright 400 litre tank with is non-baffled or only structrally baffled, is going to cause far more stability issues than a flat 400 litre. This is regardless of payload or gvw.  We will simply not fit certain systems in some of vehicles due to the suspension being very soft. The payload is fine, the GVW is fine, but the vehicle itself is not suitable for carrying a volatile load such as water.

Positioning of the tank is also something that is very important - where is the safest position? What position will cause the least wear and tear to the vehicle?

Our tanks are specificly designed to be a Cube design - which controls the water amongst the honeycomb baffles. No more traffic light sickness!