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Scrimble

  • Posts: 2052
employing
« on: December 17, 2013, 10:15:29 am »
I am at the stage where I need to employ, i have a 2nd van ready to go, i have a local round lined up from another window cleaner which i am going to purchase which will give 2 vans enough work (my business will have over 100k in total per year of regular window cleaning work)

I have a job advert in the job centre but I cannot seem to find a decent employee, the most promising guy didnt turn up for his 1st day (was a trial)
I have had people applying with experience of window cleaning but live 40 mins drive away, is it worth giving them a chance?

or is it a good idea to train someone up who has no experience of window cleaning?

any advice appreciated

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: employing
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2013, 11:55:14 am »
we have 2 lads (21 and 23) both had no window cleaning experience, but were good lads looking for a chance, they are a real asset to us. and we have just taken on a 60 year old, who is young at heart and he has fitted in brilliantly he is fit and on the glass is up to the speed and standard of our lads.

Employing is big step, take you time, get the right one, it might happen straight away it might not, if it helps at all - when we ran our job centre ad (a pretty long one!) right at the bottom we added in you will be required to send/attach a COVERING letter with your cv - any applications without a covering letter will not be considered.

This proved a useful filter, it showed someone did (hopefully !) read all the ad and showed us who could pay attention to detial, and then took the time not just to send cv but had to attach make efforts to send covering letter - it worked really well for us x

Mrs Smudger
Then choose maybe 3-6 to interview and do not make any decision until you have seen all 3 or 6!!
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Soupy

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Re: employing
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2013, 05:06:41 pm »
we have 2 lads (21 and 23) both had no window cleaning experience, but were good lads looking for a chance, they are a real asset to us. and we have just taken on a 60 year old, who is young at heart and he has fitted in brilliantly he is fit and on the glass is up to the speed and standard of our lads.

Employing is big step, take you time, get the right one, it might happen straight away it might not, if it helps at all - when we ran our job centre ad (a pretty long one!) right at the bottom we added in you will be required to send/attach a COVERING letter with your cv - any applications without a covering letter will not be considered.

This proved a useful filter, it showed someone did (hopefully !) read all the ad and showed us who could pay attention to detial, and then took the time not just to send cv but had to attach make efforts to send covering letter - it worked really well for us x

Mrs Smudger
Then choose maybe 3-6 to interview and do not make any decision until you have seen all 3 or 6!!

Sorry Mrs Smudger, I just had to.
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PoleKing

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Re: employing
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2013, 06:33:10 pm »
we have 2 lads (21 and 23) both had no window cleaning experience, but were good lads looking for a chance, they are a real asset to us. and we have just taken on a 60 year old, who is young at heart and he has fitted in brilliantly he is fit and on the glass is up to the speed and standard of our lads.

Employing is big step, take you time, get the right one, it might happen straight away it might not, if it helps at all - when we ran our job centre ad (a pretty long one!) right at the bottom we added in you will be required to send/attach a COVERING letter with your cv - any applications without a covering letter will not be considered.

This proved a useful filter, it showed someone did (hopefully !) read all the ad and showed us who could pay attention to detial, and then took the time not just to send cv but had to attach make efforts to send covering letter - it worked really well for us x

Mrs Smudger
Then choose maybe 3-6 to interview and do not make any decision until you have seen all 3 or 6!!

Sorry Mrs Smudger, I just had to.

You're hired Stuey!
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Archer

  • Posts: 1208
Re: employing
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2013, 06:37:04 pm »
Scrimble,

give me a ring if you want, and i will try and help or leave your email and i will email you

Thanks

Clever Forum Name

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Re: employing
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2013, 06:50:43 pm »
we have 2 lads (21 and 23) both had no window cleaning experience, but were good lads looking for a chance, they are a real asset to us. and we have just taken on a 60 year old, who is young at heart and he has fitted in brilliantly he is fit and on the glass is up to the speed and standard of our lads.

Employing is big step, take you time, get the right one, it might happen straight away it might not, if it helps at all - when we ran our job centre ad (a pretty long one!) right at the bottom we added in you will be required to send/attach a COVERING letter with your cv - any applications without a covering letter will not be considered.

This proved a useful filter, it showed someone did (hopefully !) read all the ad and showed us who could pay attention to detial, and then took the time not just to send cv but had to attach make efforts to send covering letter - it worked really well for us x

Mrs Smudger
Then choose maybe 3-6 to interview and do not make any decision until you have seen all 3 or 6!!

Sorry Mrs Smudger, I just had to.

Haha too funny lol

Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: employing
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2013, 06:55:09 pm »
just trying to see who would notice  :-*

mrs smudger xx
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

robertphil

  • Posts: 1511
Re: employing
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2013, 07:45:28 pm »
look em up on facebook first .   you will get an idea of what you are dealing with

Scrimble

  • Posts: 2052
Re: employing
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2013, 07:51:53 pm »
archer my number is 07936320286 or email info @ mbwindowcleaningstafford.co.uk

PurefectWindowCleaning

  • Posts: 2303
Re: employing
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 09:21:46 pm »
I employ my mate, which wont work for the majority but we have a good understanding and it works well.

trippyboy

  • Posts: 747
Re: employing
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 09:39:39 pm »
Have you got to pay them holiday pay?

PurefectWindowCleaning

  • Posts: 2303
Re: employing
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2013, 09:42:57 pm »
Have you got to pay them holiday pay?


Yes

Frankybadboy

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Re: employing
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2013, 09:45:25 pm »
Have you got to pay them holiday pay?
would you want paying if you went on hols ;)

George P

  • Posts: 1304
Re: employing
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2013, 10:22:10 pm »
I am at the stage where I need to employ, i have a 2nd van ready to go, i have a local round lined up from another window cleaner which i am going to purchase which will give 2 vans enough work (my business will have over 100k in total per year of regular window cleaning work)


im sure you already know, but dont forget about going vat registed with the above fiqure, we try to get people with no experiance and train them up top our standards, then they have no bad habits bought with them,

Scrimble

  • Posts: 2052
Re: employing
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2013, 09:39:27 am »
already know about vat george im on the flat rate scheme, gone ltd too

I've decided to arrange interviews on my best 6 applicants this weekend all on the same day will make a decision after meeting them all,

does anyone employ someone who lives far away? more than a 30 minute commute?


Smudger

  • Posts: 13459
Re: employing
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2013, 09:44:30 am »
6 interviews in a day is a lot Scrimble, you need to be as sharp and keen in the first one as you are in the last one, we split ours over two sessions normally, it gives you evening one to think who is the best you have seen, and then you have a good bench mark for day two - just my opinion xx
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

robertphil

  • Posts: 1511
Re: employing
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2013, 04:41:01 pm »
interviewing like that is messing about.  you can rule out most  ne-er do wells in the first 25 seconds,   just ask em to touch their toes,if they groan on the way up then they wont be any good.   
   

mikeyfaerosyth

  • Posts: 333
Re: employing
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2013, 08:27:41 pm »
interviewing like that is messing about.  you can rule out most  ne-er do wells in the first 25 seconds,   just ask em to touch their toes,if they groan on the way up then they wont be any good.   
   

This is what I do with potential partners/wimen.

redstarwindowcleaners

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Re: employing
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2013, 08:31:09 pm »
Wait til jan thousands of bulgmanians on their way fresh meat to exploit
10 quid a day til they wise up
Then trade it in for another one
Youll save a fortune in wages and  they will be out to impress

Cant wait for the albanians an kosovos to be let in
I reckon I can get them for 2 quid a day
Stand before my gates and be judged